Quote (Modulok2405 @ Aug 29 2023 11:11pm)
Wrong.
I never ruled out the supernatural if science cant explain something. I said WE CANT KNOW if something is supernatural or not, if we cant find a scientific explanation OR can rule out a natural explanation. How can we rule out natural explanation?
I dont know, you tell me? Nothing supernatural has ever been proven, so how should I know how to determine it. This is were the burden of proof lies.
The only way we have to explain things or find sufficient evidence for or against something right now is purely scientific. If you know another way, go ahead and tell me.
Tell me how survivors of 9/11 prove to be supernatural. Because the chances of survival were so low? Is that your standard of proof now?
Yeah, see now you get it! The chances of survival were so low and yet they survived!
Consider this, you repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. What are the chances of that? If that were to happen then I'd definitely consider that supernatural.
The proof lies in those who were once in your exact situation right now but then they became a follower of Jesus. The most famous example of this is Saul on the road to Damascus. What happened when Saul started to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God?
Acts 9:20-22
20 At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God. 21 All those who heard him were astonished and asked, “Isn’t he the man who raised havoc in Jerusalem among those who call on this name? And hasn’t he come here to take them as prisoners to the chief priests?” 22 Yet Saul grew more and more powerful and baffled the Jews living in Damascus by proving that Jesus is the Messiah.
Whether you believe it or not even I was once like you. When one day I also had my road to Damascus moment. Science couldn't explain it and it certainly wasn't a natural explanation. It was indeed supernatural.
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 29 2023 11:27pm)
lol science explained bee flight like a decade ago. Medicine is still more religion than science that's why doctors still talk about miracles. Just because science has no answer to a question at any given moment doesn't mean the answer must be god. The answer is never god.
Which brings me to you. You don't really give God any chance do you? No matter what the example or explanation is, you simply cannot comprehend that the answer can ever be God. What if God simply wanted to remain anonymous? That would certainly explain the definition of coincidence.
Why do you also have this mindset that if something can be explained by Science then it can't possibly be God? In Genesis we read how God created the Heavens and the Earth, which is how it was all designed. Just like how you cannot examine the ins and outs of how the lightbulb works to find out more about Thomas Edison - you'd have to read the books on Thomas Edison.
Same where in order to find out more about God, you don't rely on Science to explain the how everything works - you read the word of God to find out more about him.
Your quest for Science being superior is completely meaningless.