Wait wait. Indirect deaths are now all our fault as well? I don't believe I understand you. ISIS had more to do with destroyed bridges, factories, etc. than we did. Prior to pulling out of Iraq, the US had worked with the Iraqis in an attempt to train up a new military, and help restore governmental functions. We had helped rebuild damaged infrastructure, and tried to insure the nation's success. When Obama prematurely pulled out of Iraq, left a fuckton of military equipment, and freed everyone from our military prisons without a god damned reason, boom, ISIS was formed. ISIS took our left behind military equipment and promptly proceeded to wipe out mass amounts of people and infrastructure, seize oil wells and sell crude to the Turks to help finance their operations, and so the story goes.

Don't blame us for starvation and infrastructure issues. Blame ISIS. And if you want to start casting stones for ISIS existing, your first stone should be directly at Obama for his premature pulling out, allowing prisoners of war to be set free without cause, and leaving massive amounts of US Military equipment for no good god damned reason.

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Agree. Im not that good at debating anyways. I generally debate with my feels. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

most people do here in one way or another

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Iraq war 2, a well educated american is trying to excuse himself:

- Bombing water plants, then saying deaths related to water starvation aren't his fault
- Blaming ISIS for this mass murder while it wasn't existing at this time

Hard to find the words to describe your double digit stupidity + time travel superpower.

You're spouting nonsense. The invasion stage of the second Iraq war was short as hell, and the US did NOT target water supplies or treatment plants. There was no mass starvation, nor was there any mass death due to dehydration. Nor did we just bomb them and pack up and leave. We were there for years, and we rebuilt those portions of infrastructure that we damaged during the invasion. You're spouting absolute nonsense.

However in 2006, insurgent groups and Al Qaeda DID target bridges, but even there, nothing about water supplies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Shield_(Iraq)

Further, the CURRENT water crisis in Iraq has nothing whatsoever to do with the US, nor does it have to do with water treatment plants. It has to do with drought, and the fact that Turkey doesn't give a shit about Iraq, and is continuing it's water use unabated, and Iraq lives downstream.

Seriously, everything you're saying is pure fiction.

The very well educated american in denial still digging it;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_of_Iraq

The 2003 invasion of Iraq produced further degradation of Iraq’s water supply, sewerage and electrical supply systems. Treatment plants, pumping stations and generating stations were stripped of their equipment, supplies and electrical wiring by looters. The once-capable cadre of engineers and operating technicians were scattered or left the country. Reconstruction efforts faced a nation with a severely degraded infrastructure.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/aug/16/iraq

Note that: water supply relies on electricity, so when there is no electricity there is no water. CONTAMINATED WATER.

https://www.unicef.org/wash/iraq_43232.html

Basically Iraq water system were severly weakened in iraq war 1, and finished off in iraq war 2, due the chaos created by the war AND U.S sanctions.




Regarding ISIS; Iraq war started in 2003 and it wasn't for ISIS... But for things like "weapons of mass destruction" Remember the scandal ?

ISIS is the thing your country mostly created to destabilize the whole area, trying to disturb Europe influence, to serve Arabia Saudi, and to help Israel far right government needs.
And... The Oil.

You better remember this moment, sad ignorant.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 7 2019 01:22pm

You just proved your own point was false, dude. First you claim that we bombed the plants and stations. This was factually incorrect. Then you point to the fact that LOOTERS, LOCAL LOOTERS, not the US, stripped equipment. Then you point to the fact that engineers and techs scattered or left the nation. Again, NOT the fault of the US.

And now you claim the US created ISIS? For destabilization and... Oil? Are you high? The founders of ISIS were in military prison, captives of the US Military. When the US bugged out of Iraq suddenly and abruptly during the Obama Administration, full control of that prison was handed over to local authorities, who promptly released all those prisoners. Who then drummed up supporters and became the menace we had to go back in and fight. One of ISIS's first acts was to capture as much of Iraq's oil supply as they could. They sold their oil to TURKEY, not the US, ffs.

And now Israel has something to do with this? Man, you're completely ignorant of reality.

Read this and continue to applaud your murders:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_of_Iraq

The 2003 invasion of Iraq produced further degradation of Iraq’s water supply, sewerage and electrical supply systems. Treatment plants, pumping stations and generating stations were stripped of their equipment, supplies and electrical wiring by looters. The once-capable cadre of engineers and operating technicians were scattered or left the country. Reconstruction efforts faced a nation with a severely degraded infrastructure.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/aug/16/iraq

Note that: water supply relies on electricity, so when there is no electricity there is no water. CONTAMINATED WATER.

https://www.unicef.org/wash/iraq_43232.html

Basically Iraq water system were severly weakened in iraq war 1, and finished off in iraq war 2, due the chaos created by the war AND U.S sanctions.


etc...

Here's some "bomb" if you think it's important

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15260175

Abstract

A formerly classified US document, 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' provides evidence that ill health was knowingly induced in the population of Iraq through the ruination of that country's water purification system.

GOOD LUCK WITH THIS ONE.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 7 2019 01:36pm