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Nov 9 2022 11:53am
Trump on DeSantis

“If he runs, he runs,” Trump reportedly explained. “If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.”

Insane like usual. A Genius.
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Nov 9 2022 11:56am
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Trump on DeSantis

“If he runs, he runs,” Trump reportedly explained. “If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.”

Insane like usual. A Genius.


Trump will play dirty politics vs anyone who runs against him

Not surprising

Trump also is not beholden to the truth so lies will fly
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US House: demo 214 vs repu 221 ? Finally republicans won something. Enough for Trump to brag about a victory.

Quote (18nomaUSEast @ 9 Nov 2022 18:56)
Trump will play dirty politics vs anyone who runs against him

Not surprising

Trump also is not beholden to the truth so lies will fly


He will destroy his party for good this time.

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US House: demo 214 vs repu 221 ? Finally republicans won something. Enough for Trump to brag about a victory.


I'll take a +3 R house majority just to watch the clown show of McCarthy trying to reign his caucus in
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Nov 9 2022 11:59am
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He will destroy his party for good this time.


As someone who thinks the democrats are too far right I sure hope so
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Nov 9 2022 12:02pm
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I'll take a +3 R house majority just to watch the clown show of McCarthy trying to reign his caucus in


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As someone who thinks the democrats are too far right I sure hope so


Such short majority in house will highlights tensions in-between the trumpets vs "classic" republicans.
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Nov 9 2022 12:16pm
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As someone who thinks the democrats are too far right I sure hope so


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Nov 9 2022 12:20pm
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Nov 9 2022 12:25pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 9 Nov 2022 15:43)
The house map is gerrymandered so hard that there just aren't a lot of competitive seats. That being said, it looks like red states went red and blue states went blue, with a few exceptions. The notion that places like NH were swinging hard red didn't hold up, whereas Dems were wiped out in places like Florida and Ohio.

Republicans need better candidates. DeSantis and Vance had compelling narratives. DeSantis, Abbot, and Kemp were running on strong records. Herschel Walker, Masters, and Oz aren't going to cut it.

Considering the partisan lean of Ohio and the political environment, Republicans (Vance included) actually underperformed in Ohio. It's just that Ohio has become a red enough state that Vance still won comfortably.
One bigger picture aspect imho is that Republicans underperformed everywhere, but to a noticably larger degree in the Midwest where the electorate is not as socially conservative as in the South. I think overreach on abortion really played a role in places like Michigan or Wisconsin.

Relative to expectations, Florida and New York were the only bright spots for Republicans. (Zeldin couldn't quite win NY Gov, as was expected, but his coattails seem to have dragged several House candidates over the finish line.)
If the GOP wins NV Sen and Gov, that would be another bright spot. I have low hopes for the GA runoff; I just don't see how another 4 weeks of canvassing and gotv operations bear bigger fruits with rural Georgians than the Dems' machine in metro Atlanta...


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my state of wisconsin seems poised to remain rather unchanged.

dems re-won the dem stronghold seats in the state, gop won their elections. Ron Johnson edges out Mandela Barnes, Evers retains governor.

so we remain with a gridlocked state govt where the governor vetoes all state legislation and the state govt overrides his wishes. Ron Johnson gets to continue his career of saying "the jan 6th investigation is a waste of tax payer money and abortion is bad mmmmkay, also we should look into election security but i wont say the election was rigged and jan 6th was not good but not super bad."

For all the talk about Oz and Walker being horrible candidates who blew races the GOP should have won, Democrats imho really blew it in Wisconsin. Given the unexpected Republican underperformance, a stronger candidate than Mandela "pro Ayatollah" Barnes could have knocked Johnson off if you ask me.

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Considering the partisan lean of Ohio and the political environment, Republicans (Vance included) actually underperformed in Ohio. It's just that Ohio has become a red enough state that Vance still won comfortably.
One bigger picture aspect imho is that Republicans underperformed everywhere, but to a noticably larger degree in the Midwest where the electorate is not as socially conservative as in the South. I think overreach on abortion really played a role in places like Michigan or Wisconsin.

Relative to expectations, Florida and New York were the only bright spots for Republicans. (Zeldin couldn't quite win NY Gov, as was expected, but his coattails seem to have dragged several House candidates over the finish line.)
If the GOP wins NV Sen and Gov, that would be another bright spot. I have low hopes for the GA runoff; I just don't see how another 4 weeks of canvassing and gotv operations bear bigger fruits with rural Georgians than the Dems' machine in metro Atlanta...



For all the talk about Oz and Walker being horrible candidates who blew races the GOP should have won, Democrats imho really blew it in Wisconsin. Given the unexpected Republican underperformance, a stronger candidate than Mandela "pro Ayatollah" Barnes could have knocked Johnson off if you ask me.


can't disagree, Barnes wasn't a very strong candidate and had a lot of easy points for the GOP to fear monger against him. the race was reduced to him being too woke and the race against johnson was reduced to "keeping abortion illegal in wisconsin". something johnson has no power over, and being woke doesnt really affect wisconsin lives much. it was a race of pure fear and scare tactics, the ads were eyerollingly predictable.
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