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Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 4 2020 10:28am)
None of that is the point.. the point is the R is so happy that the police killed the guy.
Cops are judge>jury> sentence>etc.
again why so many people are protesting/rioting


It's absolutely the point. They killed him because he was a nutter who opened fire on armed federal marshals. Republicans are happy that an insane person who committed murder is no longer on the streets.
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Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 4 2020 08:52am)
It's absolutely the point. They killed him because he was a nutter who opened fire on armed federal marshals. Republicans are happy that an insane person who committed murder is no longer on the streets.


again you need to read back through the posts.. Of course if he opened fire on US Marshalls them killing him is an expected outcome.
the cheerleading was happening BEFORE that information came out.
Again when was he convicted of murder?

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Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 4 2020 12:09pm)
again you need to read back through the posts.. Of course if he opened fire..
they cheerleading was happening BEFORE that information came out.
Again when was he convicted of murder?


what in the fuck is this even? of course he opened fire lmao wut
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Quote (thesnipa @ 4 Sep 2020 13:23)
what in the fuck is this even? of course he opened fire lmao wut



duhcrossbones is upset his #klantifa ally decided to an hero by cop
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Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 4 2020 08:53am)
It's a worrying trend that leftists are either batshit insane or just not that bright.

17-year old kills two people in self-defense, immediately turns himself in to police. Alive today, will be exonerated on all charges.

Crazy lefty claims self-defense, flees from the police, and comes out firing when marshals come to arrest him.


i dont think he can dodge the underaged carry charge, there's no discretion there. his only defense is to somehow legally classify himself as part of a militia to qualify under 2nd ammendment language that probably isnt legally valid under current precedent. the miltia is no more up for interpretation than the well armed part of that line. well armed doesnt mean rocket launcher any more than militia means armed group of people offering unsolicited security for businesses.
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Quote (excellence @ Sep 4 2020 10:25am)
duhcrossbones is upset his #klantifa ally decided to an hero by cop


huh?
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 4 2020 12:25pm)
i dont think he can dodge the underaged carry charge, there's no discretion there. his only defense is to somehow legally classify himself as part of a militia to qualify under 2nd ammendment language that probably isnt legally valid under current precedent. the miltia is no more up for interpretation than the well armed part of that line. well armed doesnt mean rocket launcher any more than militia means armed group of people offering unsolicited security for businesses.


Would him being illegally carrying impact his self defense claim?

Like, you killed a guy with a gun you weren't legally allowed to have, so by putting yourself in that situation illegally you can't claim self defense.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ 4 Sep 2020 19:42)
Would him being illegally carrying impact his self defense claim?

Like, you killed a guy with a gun you weren't legally allowed to have, so by putting yourself in that situation illegally you can't claim self defense.


Willingly putting yourself in a dangerous situation should undermine self-defense claims to some extent, but I dont think that the choice of tools for self-defense plays any role.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 4 2020 12:42pm)
Would him being illegally carrying impact his self defense claim?

Like, you killed a guy with a gun you weren't legally allowed to have, so by putting yourself in that situation illegally you can't claim self defense.


yes and no.

if he was a WI resident, as far as i know, any illegal act committed with a gun you're illegally possessing is criminal with no defense. im not 100% sure tho how far that extends and if loss of life or other factors negate it.

however if it's charged under federal statutes because he crossed state lines that rule doesn't apply, and self defense is applicable. the law was made in WI and other states to dissuade people from escalating situations with guns, like where someone intends to brandish a weapon to intimidate and it leads to a panic where a fight happens and someone dies. WI previously didnt have concealed carry, it does now, and open carry was always legal, with a permit he didnt have ofc. Illinois is even more stringent, and VERY harsh on crossing state lines. research FOID cards if you are curious.

but given the confusing landscape of jurisdictions and him being underaged, and him killing someone, idk. its a mess. i'd bet if i had to on self defense remaining on the table tho.

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Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 4 2020 06:53am)
It's a worrying trend that leftists are either batshit insane or just not that bright.

17-year old kills two people in self-defense, immediately turns himself in to police. Alive today, will be exonerated on all charges.

Crazy lefty claims self-defense, flees from the police, and comes out firing when marshals come to arrest him.



Both claimed self defense.

He didn’t flee from police. He’s even done several interviews stating he hadn’t been charged.

Unmarked vans with unidentifiable people who could have been 3% or Boogaloo terrorists attempted to break into his home. If someone is breaking into my home they’re going to get shot. Why are conservatives such pussies? You’re just going to let thugs break into your home? Fucking cuck.
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