Helping them on an international stage is a bit of a vague idea. They almost unilaterally have no "help" now. China pumps in just enough food and gas to prevent millions of refugees from crossing their border. Besides that there is almost no physical tangible help. The more pertinent question is, does making NK feel "comfortable" serve our interests, and the world's interest, and the starving NK citizens interest, in the longrun. I'm not entirely sure, but i can't discount it.

I think of it this way, if you have a toxic member of a sports team. and their toxicity leads them to be kicked off. when they eventually drag themselves head down into the coaches office and beg to be back on the team they need to make assurances based on nothing tangible that they're sorry, they've changed, and it won't happen again. The coach then reintroduces them to the team and makes assurances that they have learned their lesson and shouldn't be ostracized but rather welcomed back into the fold. Based on nothing tangible. This is a reasonable way to assure the person stays in line, treat them well and maybe they'll be ok. Treat them like shit from the onset and you're guaranteeing they will be toxic again. treat them with ever present skepticism and they will live up to it.



what i'm saying is they shouldn't have realistically been considered a nuclear threat before the summit. they're sabre rattling to hold control because since the end of the Korean War the north has been ripe territory, since the end of the cold war and it's departure from communism even more so. now the region has gained traction economically and it's an even shinier pearl, so they felt the heat and started to join the modern world of keeping people out of your country. the most common "targets" of the NK regime are the south, whom they'd never bomb because they value Korean blood like gold, and the US whom no one at all thinks they can reach. Not even Hawaii. You have to logically restrict their "targets" to nothing but Japan and Guam. There are no other logical places they'd shoot at. Guam seems like a stretch technically and logically when u look deeper. Japan is the target.



I've read a lot of cold war era generals flapping their gums. and i've read a lot of modern experts saying we dont know what the US has or what it can do. that secrecy is a natural deterrent they've been employing since the cold war.

here's what i base my opinion on tho. we wouldnt be IMO doing the amount of drills we're doing if we couldn't intercept. if we thought a bomb could land the response would be to turn Pyongyang into glass before they can land or launch a second. the plan seems to be, from the war games, intercept then bomb their pants off with non-nukes and walk in from the north and south. this is just my speculation tho. and we're using 2020 tech to intercept what in realist is like a 1980 nuke, regardless of it's power the delivery system is likely to be an old USSR icbm or a reverse engineered equivalent. unless Putin slid them a modern missile under the table, aka world war 3 with China-Russia alliance.

I'm glad you think my predictions were based on nothing. It's thinking like that which caused liberals, and Hillary herself, to get complacent and throw the election away.

I will tell you one thing: If it weren't for Trump, it would be something like Jeb vs. Hillary in the general election. Nobody would care, nobody would watch the debates, and nobody would vote Bush for obvious reasons. With Hillary in power, things would get worse but the media would constantly spin it to make Hillary appear like the second coming of Jesus. Nobody would really care about politics and Democrats would win re-election several times with the Republican party fading away into nothing.

Thanks to Trump and people like you, that didn't happen. So THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. Keep up that attitude, it's why we're winning.

P.S.: Remember this? https://twitter.com/huffpost/status/795663593689808896

If it rains by the end of the week I'll be the smartest and most informed guy in pard

afraid to say anything but copypasta pseudowiticisms.

djman72 forever.



almost everyone thinks he'll win in 2020 except hard left sjw's. u can keep assuming that's me, it makes you discountable.



your predictions are based on a rain gauge for liberal tears. a metric most monkeys could follow.

you like to imply you're the only one who can measure this, when in reality i knew it was there i just assumed that he'd still lose. by a combination of increased turnout overall and actual barriers that Obama would put in for HRC. Trump agreed with me, but you'll just hindsight identify that as 4d chess and stop thinking.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 13 2018 08:03am

False equivalence, but wouldn't except more from a simpleton such as yourself.

A more realistic example would be if the media outlets knew the chance of rain was good, but instead intentionally reported it would be sunny and used skewed data to back up their claims.

If you look at how the polls were done for Trump vs. Hillary, they would intentionally poll a larger percentage of Democrats then Republicans every time. They would poll more women than men as women generally are more left-leaning.

They did this to make Hillary look like she was a clear winner, and that there was no point in going out to vote for Trump as he had no chance anyway. It had the exact opposite effect. It made the Democrats complacent. Hillary was either too confident, too sick, or both, to campaign as aggressively and consistently as Trump. ALL the Trump supporters went out to vote but many libs stayed home thinking Hillary had it in the bag regardless.



It's easy to say things in hindsight. I had a very strong feeling he would win for a variety of reasons, many of which you probably wouldn't be able to understand.

Glad to see you're bending the knee though. From trashing on Trump a year ago to now thinking he'll serve a successful 8 years. You've really come a long way. We've all made mistakes in the past and I won't hold it against you. You're welcome on the Trump train any time.

This post was edited by EA7 on Jun 13 2018 08:09am

You wanna know the real moment of truth?

When he attacked McCain as a POW and got away with it (which I said in the trump thread at the time)

that's the moment I knew (and many others that aren't extreme) we were in for a rough night in November even though I tried to remain optimistic that moment was too telling.

If you want to pretend you based your prediction on actual info and not just a fun game of meme roulette use that as your reason in the future

Him having the balls to say what he thinks without a filter was certainly one of the reasons he won. It also helped that most of that time what he was saying was true.

I don't think the McCain thing is as big as you're making it out to be though. Nobody really likes that guy. Many view him as a total loser. I think him getting away with calling for a shutdown to Muslim immigration as well as the "grab them by the pussy" tape was more significant.

This post was edited by EA7 on Jun 13 2018 08:16am

Try me, just make sure not to paraphrase my post-election "i was wrong, and here's the things i missed" post from a week after the election.

your issue is you come into this sub 3-5 times a week and just assume everyone's a liberal SJW because it's low fruit trolling and you get just enough bites to keep your line in the water. if you ever want to graduate beyond copy pasta from /r/T_d and show your supposed IQ level I'll be here. wait for substance that i can't just brush away with a lazy shitpost back at you. if you want to just keep shitposting tho be my guest, i always need soft targets to engage while people worth talking to are formulating responses that aren't grabbed from another message board and lazily slapped here.

or better yet, just target Beo. he looks like he's bound and determined to take you seriously so plug that well till she's dry. PS for anyone keeping score, yes this is now another Trump vs HRC 2016 election thread.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 13 2018 08:17am

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/president-trump-sean-hannitys-dumb-dumber-north-korea-interview-132524896.html

more yahoo trash, first fucking line:



the single word policing on this issue is frankly boring when there are far more credible things to speak out against from this summit.