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May 5 2018 11:16pm
Quote (Ghot @ 6 May 2018 04:45)
Well, I don't think we have anywhere near the resources for the 7.x billion we have now.

/e I mean if we did there wouldn't be people starving, w/o healthcare, w/o education etc. Once we fix those things then we could breed again. :D

I mean sure, we could handle more people, but the quality of life would go down.


Well we do have the resources. The problem is that 80% of the world's wealth is owned by the top 8 percent and 70% of all the people on the planet have to share 3% of the world's wealth between them.

https://www.credit-suisse.com/articles/news-and-expertise/2018/01/en/global-wealth-pyramid-decreased-base.html


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Yeah, well as soon as you can show me that all the billionaires etc., will decide to share all their wealth, or that communism works...


They don't have to decide. They may have 80% of the world's wealth but they are few and we are many. We take it from them by force if needs be. What they are doing by hoarding it all is vile and immoral.

The problem is distributing it properly. Man is fallible and corruptible. Especially when it comes to wealth.

This, at it's very root, is why communism is the end goal of socialism and why socialism is the only moral choice.

People starve and die and don't have proper healthcare etc because of man's greed. Not because of immigrants.

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May 5 2018 11:18pm
Quote (Scaly @ May 6 2018 01:16am)
Well we do have the resources. The problem is that 80% of the world's wealth is owned by the top 8 percent and 70% of all the people on the planet have to share 3% of the world's wealth between them.

https://www.credit-suisse.com/articles/news-and-expertise/2018/01/en/global-wealth-pyramid-decreased-base.html




They don't have to decide. They may have 80% of the world's wealth but they are few and we are many. We take it from them by force if needs be. What they are doing by hoarding it all is vile and immoral.

The problem is distributing it properly. Man is fallible and corruptible. Especially when it comes to wealth.

This, at it's very root, is why communism is the end goal of socialism and why socialism is the only moral choice.

People starve and die and don't have proper healthcare etc because of man's greed. Not because of immigrants.




Well since man's greed isn't gonna go away, it's down to overbreeding, which is where immigrants come from.

/e Sometimes I wonder why every generation thinks only they have a handle on things. Like no one in the history of the world has thought the thoughts they are thinking
All these quasi solutions I see being offered have been tried and have failed.
The ONLY constant I see is that people over breed their resources, over and over.

This post was edited by Ghot on May 5 2018 11:21pm
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May 5 2018 11:20pm
Quote (Scaly @ May 6 2018 01:16am)
People starve and die and don't have proper healthcare etc because of man's greed. Not because of immigrants.


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May 5 2018 11:24pm
Quote (Scaly @ May 5 2018 09:16pm)
Well we do have the resources. The problem is that 80% of the world's wealth is owned by the top 8 percent and 70% of all the people on the planet have to share 3% of the world's wealth between them.

https://www.credit-suisse.com/articles/news-and-expertise/2018/01/en/global-wealth-pyramid-decreased-base.html




They don't have to decide. They may have 80% of the world's wealth but they are few and we are many. We take it from them by force if needs be. What they are doing by hoarding it all is vile and immoral.

The problem is distributing it properly. Man is fallible and corruptible. Especially when it comes to wealth.

This, at it's very root, is why communism is the end goal of socialism and why socialism is the only moral choice.

People starve and die and don't have proper healthcare etc because of man's greed. Not because of immigrants.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

communism wont change this
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May 5 2018 11:25pm
Here it is...like it or not...

People are people. They're gonna BE people, no matter what.
The easiest way to solve the too few resources problem is to cut down on breeding.



/e More real estate would solve the problem, so would the movie: Downsizing
Out of the 3, less breeding, more real estate or the movie...less breeding would be the easiest.

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May 6 2018 12:05am
But your genuine pard fart right posters know why there such a big birth rate in Africa...

Their own fault isn't it?
What else I could read? that it's probably a genetical issue?

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 6 2018 02:05am)
But your genuine pard fart right posters know why there such a big birth rate in Africa...

Their own fault isn't it?
What else I could read? that it's probably a genetical issue?

pricks




Well who's fault do YOU think it is?
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May 6 2018 12:13am
Quote (Ghot @ May 5 2018 11:25pm)
Here it is...like it or not...

People are people. They're gonna BE people, no matter what.
The easiest way to solve the too few resources problem is to cut down on breeding.



/e More real estate would solve the problem, so would the movie: Downsizing
Out of the 3, less breeding, more real estate or the movie...less breeding would be the easiest.


We don't have a too few resources problem. If you think the distribution problem won't be solved, fine, but that doesn't change the fact that it isn't a resources problem.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ May 6 2018 02:13am)
We don't have a too few resources problem. If you think the distribution problem won't be solved, fine, but that doesn't change the fact that it isn't a resources problem.




Yeah, say it a few more times... it won't be true then either.
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May 6 2018 12:39am
Quote (Ghot @ 6 May 2018 07:08)
Well who's fault do YOU think it is?


Cant fix it for you, if you are such an ignorant about cold-war and post cold warn constant interferences in african affairs from governements & corporates.
Now China (your loved country) is in the race btw.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/batteries/congo-cobalt-mining-for-lithium-ion-battery/
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