1) Magnets aren't particles, they're magnets.

2) Evolution itself does not deal with how life was created but in the compete scientific view of the whole theory - it violates The law of biogenesis, attributed to Louis Pasteur, and is the conclusion that complex living things come only from other living things, by reproduction (e.g. a spider lays eggs, which develop into spiders). That is, modern life does not arise from non-living material, which was the position held by spontaneous generation. Evolution also violates the Law of entropy, that things decline over time.

3)People and animals aren't single celled bacteria.

4) People claim the universe is random space dust all the time.


- talks about how its used to create planets - so planet goo + lightning bolt + evolution = u!

5) Sure you can get a 1 in 100 chance - but in not talking about a small chance, i'm saying that random order violates the entropic principle in that everything in our universe is so finely tuned to allow life the chances of it being random are about as impossible as there a number of molecules in the known universe, or the order that is a dna strand that is biological encoded with billion and billions of complex 3-d living cell instructions vs it just randomly occurring. So I'm really saying the "its magic" theory or that its just random luck to try and explain things is really just saying you have no idea but here's some bs to chew on..



Not many - so if your looking for popular things to tell other people you have faith in - just about any other thing will qualify.
Is that your goal - to believe in popular things?

This post was edited by card_sultan on Oct 27 2016 05:58pm

i mean if the earth is actually flat, what would anyone gain from trying to get us to think the earth is .. round

Well, flat earth is really complicated.
Helios Worship of false god
People want to believe in the ball/ cant handle the fact its not
If the sun is a burning ball of Gas, we should burn gas.
Possibly hiding more land
Controlling people begins with mind control

Albert Pike - 33rd level Freemason wrote

In Morals and Dogma, Pike wrote:

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it....

The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason…

every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives Him, the reflected image of man himself..." 1

The next statement reduces the Masonic philosophy to a single premise. Pike writes:

"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god but the negation of God. The Devil is the personification of Atheism or Idolatry.

Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls?

Doubt it not!" 2

Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees:

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry. The whole body of the Royal and Sacerdotal Art was hidden so carefully, centuries since, in the High Degrees, as that it is even yet impossible to solve many of the enigmas which they contain. It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain, and without any true reward violate his obligations as an Adept. Masonry is the veritable Sphinx, buried to the head in the sands heaped round it by the ages. " 3

A reader has written to say the following, regarding the secrecy of higher Freemasonry levels:

"When in grade school we are taught that the three smallest particles of matter were the proton, neutron and electron. Today, we know there are a multitude of yet even smaller particles that make up those first particles. Could we in the 5th grade have understood the quarks, leptons, and other smaller particles without understanding the proton, neutron and electron first? I sincerely doubt it.

Masonry is the same way. The first three degrees are referred to as Symbolic Masonry. Degrees four through 32 are part of what is referred to as Philosophical Masonry. The degrees that follow, from the 34th and up are referred to as the Esoteric Degrees. Again, notice how things are taught in steps."

While I absolutely agree that it is right for information to be gradually fed to an ever enquiring mind, I do not agree that it makes sense to "use false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled", which is what Morals and Dogma explains.

You were saying?

yes of course magnets attract - but i was talking about the feasibility of the big bang theory - so if you can prove the big bang created magnets, you'll have a point.
But i guess reading the whole sentence would be something beyond your comprehension.

Lol

I'm actually surprised this thread has lived this long... Nice to see spam hasn't killed it yet.

In regards to the op, I'm not anti flat earth, I've never been to space and can't say with 100% certainty that I know this world is flat out round, but when you bring belief in God into it you invalidate your argument to a certain degree. It's almost like you associate the"greatness" of god with the certain belief in the shape of the planet. Almost like calling god fearing folk bad because they still believe in a round earth, trying to play on their emotions to appeal to that audience. Just my 2¢.

Curious question: if the world is flat or round, why should I care? What difference should it make to me? I mean, I'll be lucky if I make it another 50 years, so why should I take the time to worry about it? Other than entertainment value, does it really impact us at all?

he claims that since everyone has been led to believe the earth is round, but its actually flat, that there must be some shadow organization "keeping the secret" so they can keep us from all of the land beyond the Antarctic wall.

i think this is what happened to earth we just can't tell because space bent at the same time

This is too funny.

Anyway, I think I'm done. Card, you think the earth is flat because you simply don't understand things. You think you've discovered these flaws and you are all enlightened and shit, but in reality the flaws lie with you. Watching you flail around, tossing out words you don't understand in an attempt to prove something you have no idea about, it's funny but also a little sad. Unfortunately you will probably be mocked your whole life, and for that I'm sorry. I strongly urge you to just give up this whole science thing and look for something you might be good at. Just accept that this is something you will simply never understand and focus on your strengths instead. Maybe art, or music, or acting, or sports. Experiment, try stuff, I'm confident that you will eventually discover your calling.