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Apr 26 2011 01:04pm
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Apr 26 2011 06:57pm)
You're an idiot if you honestly are trying to rebuttle my question earlier.  How can you have a CLASS on abstinence?  There, i'll rephrase it for you, since you couldnt quite grasp the direction of my question.


It's "called" Sex Ed in many public schools in rural areas. The teacher gets up, tells you sex is a terrible thing before marriage and that your not allowed to do it, and then proceeds to list off every danger of sex ever known to man. THATS how you teach a class on abstinence. Once again, you tell the kids to abstain and then justify that course of action with logic, however fallacious it may be.

"But how do you know?" You're wondering. Well because I had to sit through one of those bullshit classes myself. So I know very well how they can teach a class on abstinence.
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It has been stated many times that we are not advocating for them to be installed simply that there wouldn't be a problem with them being installed.

My question is why don't you advocate for stronger protection for children against all sexual contents when that is one of the reasons for not wanting unisex bathrooms.

and do you have any actual info on expected abuse of the unisex policy that couldn't be covered by simply making ground to ceiling stalls?


What am I not advocating for that would offer more protection to children against sexual assault?

Ground to ceiling stalls pose other hazards, especially with children. What if they can't get the door unlocked? You think it's coincidence that stalls are designed the way they are today to not be floor to ceiling?

Do you have any actual info on the expected safety of the unisex policy?

Back to my question to you, why are current unisex bathrooms mostly unused?
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Quote (njaguar @ Apr 26 2011 02:59pm)
See bolded, seems like we need to fire all our teachers. They're all teaching and not providing any actual education.


In all fairness, not all teachers are good teachers ;) But I don't know why this topic has gone from Black vs White Hate crime to a discussion about transgenders rights, to a topic about unisex bathrooms, to child molestation, to sex ed....
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Quote (hATemOnkEy @ 26 Apr 2011 14:01)
For the bazzilionth time:


WHY IS THERE AN INCREASED RISK TO THE CHILD IN A UNISEX BATHROOM IN CONTRAST TO A GENDERSPECIFIC BATHROOM, WHEN THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN ACCOMPANIES THE CHILD INSIDE REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF RESTROOM?


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Quote (Rhamax @ Apr 26 2011 07:04pm)
It's "called" Sex Ed in many public schools in rural areas. The teacher gets up, tells you sex is a terrible thing before marriage and that your not allowed to do it, and then proceeds to list off every danger of sex ever known to man. THATS how you teach a class on abstinence. Once again, you tell the kids to abstain and then justify that course of action with logic, however fallacious it may be.

"But how do you know?" You're wondering. Well because I had to sit through one of those bullshit classes myself. So I know very well how they can teach a class on abstinence.


This argument is invalid than, because "Abstinence class" and "Sexual Education" are just 2 different names for the exact same thing.

I just fucking wasted alot of my time, damnit.

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Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Apr 26 2011 07:01pm)
For the bazzilionth time:


WHY IS THERE AN INCREASED RISK TO THE CHILD IN A UNISEX BATHROOM IN CONTRAST TO A GENDERSPECIFIC BATHROOM, WHEN THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN ACCOMPANIES THE CHILD INSIDE REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF RESTROOM?


Seriously, this.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 26 2011 03:03pm)
more like one of the people who are shy so they wait for the stalls.


...shy of what ?

...other men seeing your penis ?

...and you call ME homophobic !
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This argument is invalid than, because "Abstinence class" and "Sexual Education" are just 2 different words for the exact same thing.

I just fucking wasted alot of my time, damnit.


No they aren't. Proper Sexual Education educates how to obtain protection, use it, and its purpose. An "Abstinence class" says don't do it or this will happen and gives no information about how to do it safely. My argument is completely valid seeing as many rural towns that practice this form of Sex Ed have explosive teen pregnancy and/or STD rates.
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Apr 26 2011 01:09pm
Quote (Rhamax @ Apr 26 2011 07:08pm)
No they aren't. Proper Sexual Education educates how to obtain protection, use it, and its purpose. An "Abstinence class" says don't do it or this will happen and gives no information about how to do it safely. My argument is completely valid seeing as many rural towns that practice this form of Sex Ed have explosive teen pregnancy and/or STD rates.


Than that's ignorance on my part.. I'm born and raised in DC and Northern VA/Metro area.. I've never heard of this, and it sounds rediculous.

I appologize lol.
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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Apr 26 2011 07:09pm)
Than that's ignorance on my part..  I'm born and raised in DC and Northern VA/Metro area..  I've never heard of this, and it sounds rediculous.

I appologize lol.


When I worked as a General Merchandiser (works with human body products) at a grocery store, the most stolen item in my inventory was pregnancy tests, and they held that title by a long shot. This was in a small town that thinks that kids will ignore sex and the problem will go away.

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