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#281
Jan 17 2026 04:34pm
Quote (sew @ Jan 18 2026 10:49am)
I have seen God use women in the ministry in miraculous ways and I will not deny it through 1 Timothy 2:12.

I have seen God pour out His Spirit through women in the ministry, causing the lame to walk, the blind to see, and the sick to be healed through them, and I will not deny it through 1 Timothy 2:12.

This is above my understanding. I trust in the Word of 1 Timothy 2:12, because it is God's Word, but I also trust in whom I have seen God use, and now it is by faith.


I thought god cannot be seen by anyone so how can you claim to see god pour his spirit? This is how I know you are tripping

John 1:18 "No one has ever seen God,"
Exodus 33:20 "You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live."

Stop embarrassing yourself and your fellow christians with your lack of understanding

What you've seen is cheap parlor tricks performed by con artists. There are numerous case studies of how these charlatan perform theatrics on stage and give the illusion they are healing.



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Jan 17 2026 04:35pm
Quote (addone @ 17 Jan 2026 14:34)
I thought god cannot be seen by anyone so how can you claim to see god pour his spirit? This is how I know you are tripping

John 1:18 "No one has ever seen God,"
Exodus 33:20 "You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live."

Stop embarrassing yourself and your fellow christians with your lack of understanding

What you've seen is cheap parlor tricks performed by con artists. There are numerous case studies of how these charlatan perform theatrics on stage and give the illusion they are healing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0GbjWqgF70


You missed the portion where I clearly said 'through,' yes, 'through.'
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Jan 17 2026 04:54pm
Quote (sew @ Jan 18 2026 11:35am)
You missed the portion where I clearly said 'through,' yes, 'through.'


So seeing god directly is impossible but seing god "through" someone isn't? What do you see exactly, gods invisible hand go inside a person and move them around like a sock puppet? If the bible states you cannot see god it doesn't mean you can actually see god but only if its through someone or through a pair of magic bible glasses that cost $99.99 It means you cannot see them period.

Thanks for continuing making my point that christians are really just interpreting the bible how they see fit and creating a god in their own image.




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the bible commands you to be silent, how do you respond?

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Jan 17 2026 05:23pm
Quote (WastedPenguinz @ Jan 18 2026 11:31am)
How about a pat on the back for being exceptional at finding contradictions within the Bible?
You have a knack for science speak but I fear you lack an end goal beyond upsetting Christian's that won't yield.
And while you're on this philanthropic adventure, I'd love to see you tackle other religions :)

I do wonder though, if you had your way. How much more we'd understand about our creation and existence...?


I did read an article on x that

"In 2015, an Islamic Association wanted to build Europe's largest mosque in Bucharest, Romania.
The Orthodox Romanians threw pig carcasses into the construction site of the mosque, and the Islamic Association dropped the project, since a mosque can't be built on "impure" ground."

Thought it was funny insert* ancient problems require ancient solutions meme.

I do like it when religions fight with each other in general. The crusades were pretty based imo I wouldn't mind if they happened again on the lightbulb people and the rest of the Islamic nations. But only so that they eliminate each other and make more space for more civilized people.
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Jan 17 2026 05:39pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Jan 18 2026 11:30am)
^addone

No answer to this? https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=681759072

The thing is you seem to be one of the only people here that aggressively brings up this topic of conversation. The problem is your methods are to take some else's work and post it as your own. That means we are in fact not debating addone as it wasn't your original work. This means even when something is debunked, that won't have any affect on you.

So here is what we are going to do. I want to know more about the person behind the keyboard of the addone account.

Tell us all about your personal upbringing and why you feel the need to post this topic in the first place?

Tell us things like did you go to Church when you were younger or were your parents not religious? Did you go to Church and have a bad encounter?

Did you have a bad experience with a Christian and this is how you are handling the trauma? Do the Christians in your life not act like they should be? I need to know about your personal life and religious upbringing.

Also don't feel the need to respond straight away. I will do a maximum of one post per day and I will not revisit this site for about 12 hours after this post is made. Take your sweet time to really think about what you will share about your personal life.


Any contradiction I present here you can treat as if it was coming from me. If I missed something might need to remind me not every post is gets a response. Also if you could summarize your point in a tl;dr version since I don't want to be reading long-winded essays all day that would be very helpful and I try be succinct on my end.

Can you give me a short hand version of your response to genealogy of jesus covering key points.
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Jan 17 2026 05:46pm
Quote (addone @ Jan 17 2026 02:34pm)
I thought god cannot be seen by anyone so how can you claim to see god pour his spirit? This is how I know you are tripping

John 1:18 "No one has ever seen God,"
Exodus 33:20 "You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live."

Stop embarrassing yourself and your fellow christians with your lack of understanding

What you've seen is cheap parlor tricks performed by con artists. There are numerous case studies of how these charlatan perform theatrics on stage and give the illusion they are healing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0GbjWqgF70


so the Exodus part, nobody may see God the Father and live, as God the Father completely transcends the created order. The next few verses of Exodus there God places Moses between two rocks and lets Moses see His Glory as He passes by, which is perfectly explained by Eastern Orthodoxy's essence/energy distinction. When someone sees the activities or energia of God in reality, it is truly God, but not His essence.

Like the Eucharist is participation in the person of Christ, but NOT being united with the essence of God as that would make us the same as God, but participation in His Life through the uncreated energies (activities of God)

idk how other denominations of Christianity explain these things

This post was edited by majorblood on Jan 17 2026 05:47pm
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Jan 17 2026 05:54pm
Damn does Christianity relate to more peaceful civilized people? If you cant see the proof of God in that admission then maybe you lack the gene that allows you to understand the concept?

And I mean no disrespect by that, Id rather believe something that brings people together that believe something that justifies us being apart.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene
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Jan 17 2026 06:10pm
Quote (majorblood @ Jan 18 2026 12:46pm)
so the exodus part, nobody may see God the Father and live, as God the Father completely transcends the created order. The next few verses of Exodus there God places moses between two rocks and lets Moses see His Glory as he passes by, which is perfectly explained by Eastern Orthodoxy's essence/energy distinction. When someone sees the activities or energia of God in reality, it is truly God, but not His essence.

Like the Eucharist is participation in the person of Christ, but being united with the essence of God, but participation in His Life through the uncreated energies (activities of God)

idk how other denominations of Christianity explain these things


You've lost me at essence/energy distinction. Like wtf are even talking about? I am not familliar with this hippy terminology my head hurts reading that entire thing.
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Jan 17 2026 07:37pm
Quote (addone @ Jan 17 2026 12:33pm)
https://imgur.com/fBWfgPz.jpeg



Which part of "she is to remain quiet" did you not understand? Evangelism is still teaching gospel with the aim to persuade. She doesn't just copy paste bible verses she explains what they mean. You must be one of those make it up as you go along type of christians who uses the bible like a trail mix pick and choose what you like to hear.



https://imgur.com/Kfjx6Rt.jpeg


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Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 17 2026 04:39pm)
'atheists dont believe in mathmatics they believe in a wild azz throw of the dice and magical morphing monkeys

its a bit of humor, in response to
sirthom
post.
you didnt have to take personal offense, but since you did i notice you didnt challenge the statement. you just got 'clever and assigned the wrong fallacy to it. it was a insult so i suppose you could call it a adhom. er, but the comment wasnt part of our conversation.

share with us. whats your true motivation?

Romans 1:22
King James Version
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

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Jan 17 2026 08:15pm
Quote (addone @ Jan 17 2026 04:10pm)
You've lost me at essence/energy distinction. Like wtf are even talking about? I am not familliar with this hippy terminology my head hurts reading that entire thing.


I am talking about the difference between the essence (the "what" of God, His innermost being, what He is in essence) compared to His activities or operations (energia). We cannot know what God is in essence, but we can know God by His uncreated operations in the world, His Life overflowing. This differs from the Augistine view accepted by Roman Catholics of Absolute Divine Simplicity, that God IS Love, God IS mercy, in essence and that we can know His essence which leads to many problems in both theology and even the Eucharist. This would necessarily mean and theophanies or appearances of God in the world must be his essence, which would contradict those passages and others, meaning it wasn't actually God but a creation.


this is ancient Christianity, not some modern "hippy" thing, it's simply requires a bit of theology and philosophy. If you were interested, Aristotle wrote about similar concepts, st Paul directly talks about it, and st. Gregory Palamas famously defended hesychasm using the essence/energy distinction. A modern scholar that writes about it and explaining the biblical connection is Dr. David Bradshaw.

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