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Aug 16 2024 08:13am
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This is still being talked about?


No, because it was not the hill to die on people got caught up realizing they messed up and now went into silence.

Seems like its gone pretty quiet to me.

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No, because it was not the hill to die on people got caught up realizing they messed up and now went into silence.

Seems like it’s gone pretty quiet to me.


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No, because it was not the hill to die on people got caught up realizing they messed up and now went into silence.

Seems like its gone pretty quiet to me.


Even my mother, who is the most anti Trump pro Hillary person ever who embodies the educated strong woman OG feminist stereotype, is against this man beating up women and sees it as absurd. This stuff is waking up the normies to an extent, no one who hasn't lost their mind completely thinks this is a woman
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Even my mother, who is the most anti Trump pro Hillary person ever who embodies the educated strong woman OG feminist stereotype, is against this man beating up women and sees it as absurd. This stuff is waking up the normies to an extent, no one who hasn't lost their mind completely thinks this is a woman


Sounds like every old person on Facebook who gets sucked in by the meme of the day to be honest.
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Aug 16 2024 09:09am
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Even my mother, who is the most anti Trump pro Hillary person ever who embodies the educated strong woman OG feminist stereotype, is against this man beating up women and sees it as absurd. This stuff is waking up the normies to an extent, no one who hasn't lost their mind completely thinks this is a woman


i love this kind of stuff, its like you've never in your whole life encountered a manly looking woman. they're all over, female T levels differ.

if you got a full body scan of her and full bloodwork you'd still say "its all fake, i know a man when i see one".
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Sounds like every old person on Facebook who gets sucked in by the meme of the day to be honest.


She's not like that, doesn't use social media, is very much establishment big government, used to be high ranking foreign affairs analyst, Hillary person who looks down on people without higher education. Doesn't even know about memes
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i love this kind of stuff, its like you've never in your whole life encountered a manly looking woman. they're all over, female T levels differ.

if you got a full body scan of her and full bloodwork you'd still say "its all fake, i know a man when i see one".


Normal people that don't have a pro-trans agenda aren't buying the complete and total gaslighting that this is a woman. People nearing their 70s have seen alot more women than you and I. And I see alot of ultra jacked women every week, some on heavy AAS, and none of them look like a man.

Are we just memory holing that this individual has XY chromosomes
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Normal people that don't have a pro-trans agenda aren't buying the complete and total gaslighting that this is a woman. People nearing their 70s have seen alot more women than you and I. And I see alot of ultra jacked women every week, some on heavy AAS, and none of them look like a man.


thats me.

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Are we just memory holing that this individual has XY chromosomes


no. but you're memory holing that XY typically presents LOW T, not HIGH T in women. many of them have delayed and reduced puberty.

people like you see XY and instantly assume that means this born female with female genitals (assuming you even accept that as true) must have many of the male hormonal advantages. that's not true, but it wont change your mind.

what we have here is a biological female who has XY genetic mutation but presumably no male genitalia, and allegedly increased T levels. thats all unproven really tho just assumed with a level of likelihood.

what we do know is she's lost a lot of boxing matches to females, and has a low KO rate, and that the italian boxer who cried about her came into the match with a broken nose that she got punched in with a light jab then quit. those facts arent in dispute by anyone.
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thats me.



no. but you're memory holing that XY typically presents LOW T, not HIGH T in women. many of them have delayed and reduced puberty.

people like you see XY and instantly assume that means this born female with female genitals (assuming you even accept that as true) must have many of the male hormonal advantages. that's not true, but it wont change your mind.

what we have here is a biological female who has XY genetic mutation but presumably no male genitalia, and allegedly increased T levels. thats all unproven really tho just assumed with a level of likelihood.

what we do know is she's lost a lot of boxing matches to females, and has a low KO rate, and that the italian boxer who cried about her came into the match with a broken nose that she got punched in with a light jab then quit. those facts arent in dispute by anyone.


You're making the false assumption that the only advantage males have over females are T levels. This couldn't be further from the truth. Women can dope on T for decades and have extremely high levels, but still handily lose a powerlifting competition to a man with lower T. This is a common misconception among non-athletes, they reduce everything to T when T is just one factor in the equation.

This individual has a male musculoskeletal system which is trivially observed by the naked eye. That alone provides an absurd level of advantage in fighting sports that I shouldn't have to explain why, you're smart and can understand this.

They have lost alot of matches because this particular individual is outclassed by amateur and casual male fighters - they're just that bad. But having the male frame is still enough of an advantage for them to tighten up their skills and win against women.
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You're making the false assumption that the only advantage males have over females are T levels. This couldn't be further from the truth. Women can dope on T for decades and have extremely high levels, but still handily lose a powerlifting competition to a man with lower T. This is a common misconception among non-athletes, they reduce everything to T when T is just one factor in the equation.

This individual has a male musculoskeletal system which is trivially observed by the naked eye. That alone provides an absurd level of advantage in fighting sports that I shouldn't have to explain why, you're smart and can understand this.

They have lost alot of matches because this particular individual is outclassed by amateur and casual male fighters - they're just that bad. But having the male frame is still enough of an advantage for them to tighten up their skills and win against women.


this fighter in her career is 47-9, with 7 kos. all of their fights are vs women. so your last bit doesnt make much sense.

T levels arent the end all be all, they're just the indicator. a woman with more T naturally will develop a more muscular frame. any person with eyes has seen dozens or hundreds in their lives and not thought much of it.

when people claim this woman has some out of character physique it just suggest to me they havent seen much female boxing. female boxers regularly have solid male looking biceps and developed shoulders. they hit a heavy bag and spar for hours per day as well as lift weights.

honestly though im not arguing from a standpoint that you're 100% wrong. maybe she blood dopes, maybe she has a literal unfair biological advantage, etc. its the hubris to claim you somehow figured this our with your eyeballs, and that everyone else is blind and not as smart or knowledgeable about athletics, that is just incorrect. the olyimpics is filled with the pinnacle of athletic individuals from the globe, and women all over the world have differing physiology. some skinny woman has a bit of muscle and silly people say "thats a man, my eye can tell", which is funny to me. i grew up around plenty of farm girls that had bigger muscles from a life of doing dairy chores.
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