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sick well the trial is literally happening right now as we speak day 1 and already 45ths team is getting shit on by the judge so good fucking luck baby yall about to feel the long dick of the lady justice.


Its not being argued in this trial. The judge has already ruled on it.
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Even if they don't check it out it's still fraud if you knowingly entered false information for your own benefit.



Time to go after all the kids checking “not white” on their college applications.
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Even if they don't check it out it's still fraud if you knowingly entered false information for your own benefit.


How’s it fraud? If I have an appraisal done on my properties. Which would have to be done and the bank follows that valuation of said properties. Then how would I be the guilty party for accepting said valuation?
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Oct 2 2023 02:00pm
what they ought to prosecute him for is the 'vaccine/warp speed
and turning us over to that fraud dr fraudie

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Time to go after all the kids checking “not white” on their college applications.


Cope harder

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When do they not check it out? Every property I’ve bought has had an appraisal done. To think one wasn’t is foolish.


The bank can be foolish at the same time Trump committed fraud.

These things are not exclusive.

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How’s it fraud? If I have an appraisal done on my properties. Which would have to be done and the bank follows that valuation of said properties. Then how would I be the guilty party for accepting said valuation?


Guess you aren't reading.

If you knowingly submit false information for personal gain, that's fraud. Literally nothing else matters.

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How’s it fraud? If I have an appraisal done on my properties. Which would have to be done and the bank follows that valuation of said properties. Then how would I be the guilty party for accepting said valuation?


You provide false information that the appraisal report is based on.
That is fraud

Example
One of his golf courses was appraised at a very high value which was justified by the highest and best use of the land. Claiming it has the potential to build 3000 residential units despite the fact that zoning only allowed for 1500 cottages
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Oct 2 2023 02:17pm
Trump wasn't lying when he said the Saudis would pay billions for maralago, but then the fbi removed all the value.
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Cope harder



The bank can be foolish at the same time Trump committed fraud.

These things are not exclusive.



Guess you aren't reading.

If you knowingly submit false information for personal gain, that's fraud. Literally nothing else matters.


You would have to prove the knowingly. Which I doubt anyone could do. If appraiser A says value of property is such and appraiser B says value of property is such it wouldn’t be fraud to take the higher valuation.
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You would have to prove the knowingly. Which I doubt anyone could do. If appraiser A says value of property is such and appraiser B says value of property is such it wouldn’t be fraud to take the higher valuation.


It's incredibly easy to prove it was done knowingly.

When you built a 10,000 sqft apartment, and then report a 30,000 sqft (which is what happened for his own apartment) , it is obviously knowingly misrepresented. You built it after all.

When you own the land and have access to all survey documents and zoning documents that say you can't legally build certain things, and then tell a surveyer that you can build those things, you can easily conclude it was a knowing deception. You have access to all the documents after all.

When you admit in a court filing that the basis for your appraisal was "somebody from Saudi Arabia would probably pay it" as opposed to a real market appraisal, that's knowingly submitting false information. You made it up. You know that's not a real value based on market data.


See how easy this is?

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Oct 2 2023 02:25pm
[QUOTE=NetflixAdaptationWidow,Oct 2 2023 01:11pm

If you knowingly submit false information for personal gain, that's fraud. Literally nothing else matters.[/QUOTE]

you mean like 'vaccineis 100% safe 100% effective

over run with 'immigrants
thinks fire alarms are door openers
but gona get that donald drumph tho


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