not directly, but you clearly suggested it, replying to my post about nissan's sunderland decision with a general observation that has NOTHING to do with it.
again, the fact that you not stated it explicitly does not mean it wasn't blatantly obvious what you were trying to do there...

no, just the x-trail, their other expansion plans are unaffected so far - and nissan didn't even blame brexit uncertainties exclusively, but also cited a reduced sales prediction and investments for emission regulations.

doesn't stop the appeasers and hacks from rolling out their 'has nothing to do with brexit / companies just use it as an excuse' narratives.

Which accent is it ?


This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 3 2019 08:20am

Fair enough.. Can we say Brexit is overemphasized in some articles when it comes to stopping Sunderland's production of a failing breed of cars within current and expected EU regulation ?

which ones? i honestly haven't seen a single one yet - i'm not saying it's inconceivable, but so far the only people i saw making that claim were leavers trying to downplay the connection. however, all the reporting i saw so far, addressed the fact that brexit played a role in the decision, but also mentioned additional reasons, like the ones from nissan's official statement for example.

also, let's not just outright dismiss the different nature of these reasons - because it's certainly relevant when you're talking about the reporting on this issue: brexit is a factor that the people affected had an active part in (hence the meme), which surely warrants a certain focus on the issue compared to the usual mechanisms of the industry, wouldn't you agree?

The guy was attempting a Cockney accent but he sounds foreign to me. The police officer is cockney.

thats the thing, just blaming brexit in general like the people who cant deal with it is simply dishonest

brexit has all the potential to be a huge success story, if handled somewhat properly
unfortunately not happening with the likes of may and i think it doesnt need a conspiracy theory anymore to think that at least some of the latest "failures" were done on purpose to sabotage brexit

and the real irony begins, when the peace project EU suddenly cares about borders and so far even would take the risk to cause a new ireland conflict just to teach the uk a lesson

What else would you expect from people that are bitter the UK is leaving?

you know what, let's dissect your moronic picture:

first, you post:


then, Knoppie argues that


You jump in and implicitly agree with him, arguing that


But if we look a bit further into the details, the case is far less clear than you and Knoppie claim:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/03/nissan-confirms-new-x-trail-will-not-be-built-in-sunderland



If looming tariffs and uncertainty surrounding the Brexit were the key cause for their decision to scrap the planned X-trail production in Sunderland, then this would necessarily have to apply to the planned Juke and Qashqai models as well!

If we dig further, we see that the plans to produce the X-trail in Sunderland had been relatively new:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/27/nissan-to-make-new-qashqai-and-x-trail-models-in-britain



So it seems like the decision to produce the X-trail at Sunderland vs back home in Japan had been a tight one from the get go. Moreover, the older guardian article gives the impression that the planned production of the Qashqai hinged on the government guarantees as well, and as the recent guardian article reports, these plans are still valid.

All in all, Nissan's statement that
"it had taken the decision “for business reasons” but cited the impact of Brexit, saying: “The continued uncertainty around the UK’s future relationship with the EU is not helping companies like ours to plan for the future.”

must rather be read as "the uncertainty has only led to the cancellation of the X-trail production because this decision had been on the fence all along". This is also consistent with Nissan's emphasis on the saved "upfront investment costs" with an X-trail production back home in Japan.



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the tldr: yes, the Brexit most certainly played some role in the cancellation of the X-trail production in Sunderland. But it is far from certain that it is the sole, or even the main reason for this decision; the further one delves into details, the less clear the picture. Hence, my warning that ideologues would falsely put full blame for business decisions on Brexit and nothing but the Brexit is well justified even in this case, and your claim that my objection does "quite obviously not apply" is unjustified.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 3 2019 09:28am

me: post a meme about sunderland voting overwhelmingly for brexit and brexit being part of the reason they are losing jobs.

you: b-b-but brexit is often blamed when it has nothing to do with it.

me: true, but that's clearly not the case here, brexit is definitely a relevant factor, so stop making those lazy pivots.

you: well i technically never said it wasn't

me: true, but it's obvious what you were trying to do there, replying to my post with a generalised apologetic observation

you: let me go full r...