It's not "poison" in that sense. If you do not understand the view of your opponent, you will never be prepared to face them on their own terms.

You simply cannot consider yourself informed unless you consider the viewpoints of them all.

This is why I phrased my post as I did. You were talking about conservatives, but then ended by talking about general knowledge. I don't believe you have even the slightest taste of general knowledge, because you view a lot of what provides general knowledge as "poison".

It's not poison, it's opinion. And opinion with millions of viewers.

All I can do is shrug and hope you understand.

Conservatives care about the case because it is not only a referendum on the justice system in terms of who is allowed to defend their lives, but the narrative has now (of fucking corse) switched to an attack on the second amendment.

The way we see if is this is going to be the precedent on whether or not anybody deemed as a conservative is allowed to defend themselves. Regardless of the circumstances of this specific case, the entire reason there is even a trial is a politically motivated notion that the rioters had the right to break the law, and not even the police were allowed to do anything about it.

You have to remember this happened on the third night of riots. President trump offered to end the violence and destruction after the first night. The local “leadership” vehemently declined. They ordered the police to basically stand down. In a three day span of absolute chaos they were basically daring anybody who doesn’t support BLM to attempt any sort of damage control. You may remember the man who was putting out fires inside of his own business when people ran in to loot the place. He chased them out by spraying his extinguisher, and was knocked flat out with some blunt object. Nothing was done about it, the looters were shown to be the “good guys” in that scenario.

Enter Kyle who wanted to do what he could to thwart some of the damage from being done. Simply by being opposed to the riots he has lost his rights as an American citizen.

This case is not about guilty or not guilty. He is clearly not guilty of any crime as the law is written. It has become about which side of ideology is “good” and which is “bad”.

A full court day of deliberation says he's not getting off clean. Just gonna come out and state it. The track record for overnight deliberation, especially with non-sequestered jury... It doesn't look good for Kyle.

Robert Barnes appears to disagree with my assessment. I sincerely hope he is smarter than I am, especially given that I've granted that as fact. I don't want to be shown as stupid by being smarter than the stupid that I've claimed is smarter than me.

Bravo.


Pretending what happens on shows like Reid Out doesn’t matter is plain ignorant.

This post was edited by WickedDarkJuggalos on Nov 17 2021 03:29am

I would go a step farther in pointing out that stating what happens on shows like Louder with Crowder doesn't matter is plain ignorant as well.

There's a reason media of a particular bent has been shunned as much as is socially accepted by major tech platforms. Uff, awkward statement, but I'm drunk, and don't care, so I'll leave it.

Bottom line? The left understands fully the power of narrative. There are reasons they want Veritas shut down, wikileaks shut down, daily wire, Fox News, RT, newsmax, blaze, etc. shut down. It has nothing to do with "poison".

Their narrative has never been "poison". Their narrative has been the Jan 6th narrative. "If you provide an alternative opinion, you're a terrorist."

Imagine a minor defending their life vs a pedophile who is literally attempting to murder them. Clear cut self defense, no? Now enter a political narrative of "The pedo is on our side". Suddenly a hundred million people are willing to cry "White Supremacist!" That's the literal case you're watching.

And I just finished outlining why Kyle is more my enemy than my friend. Think on it.

It's definitely poison because it's an opinion that maximizes entertainment, not intellect. You're correct that you should be aware of what they are saying but you could inform yourself through a secondary source in that regard. I don't need to watch an hour of Tucker Carlson when I could either read a transcript or read an article about what he said. If I truly need to get other information such as facial expressions, tone, etc. then you could watch a clip. You're literally wasting your time and rotting your brain by watching television because it's an extremely inefficient way of obtaining information. Do you at least record it and watch it at double speed?

I don't understand your post. Granted, it's late, and I've already admitted inebriation. However, you appear to be indicating that I've wasted my personal time, yet I've watched the entire trial with the exception of jury selection. I've watched hundreds of hours of bar passed lawyer analysis. What could I possibly do to be more informed?

My assumption is that I'm the abnormality, brother. Not the rule. My assumption is that once the trolling is cast off, so are you, so is Thor, so are nearly all other major violators in this forum. We are not "general opinion" We are the exception, and as far from the rule as it gets. Can you tell me you don't have family who don't get their opinions from Maddow, Kimmel, the Young Turks? I can't tell you that. Can you tell me that you don't have family that get their opinion from Tucker, Gutfeld, Rogan, and Crowder? I can't tell you that, either.

I think you need to understand that the battle of narrative, and how to control that narrative, aka the battle of propaganda is the battle of today's politics. More than anything else. And if Kyle is acquitted, that means propaganda lost. If he's convicted, propaganda has won, and liberty is dead.

"Liberty cannot be granted, merely taken away."

Again bravo.

I am not a drinker but you are carrying it well tonight.

And thundercock I just want to point out that we are here 99.9% because we play mind rotting video games with our spare time.

Where did he defend or support rioters?
The narrative is that he went with his friends to protect property from rioters.