companies now have an easy time blaming brexit for any layoffs and factory shutdowns, no matter if these are really caused by brexit or if they would have been scheduled anyway - just as the EU was the scapegoat for british politicians and was blamed for everything that's going wrong, no matter if it really was the EU causing the problem or if it was a domestic issue.

I agree, it's the same with Jewish schools in London

There for sure are other forces at play with these two models.. Them having a diesel market share and jobs in automotive being replaced by automation as examples do play a role.. Perhaps those should be talked about a bit more in the articles.

But when 40% of the factory's production is meant for export to the EU, facing a possible 10% tariff with a hard Brexit, then I can understand a reduction of its operation. Production within the EU would make the cars ~10% cheaper...

An argument making to much sense to be called a scapegoat.

Public services aren't inherently better. In some instances they are better than private services, and in some they are worse. Leaving no room for competition is generally a bad thing, as it eliminates the incentive to offer a better service.

In the case of the taxi service in Spain, it's utter crap and much worse than the one private companies are offering. It's why the taxi drivers are protesting, because nobody wants to hire their outdated and overpriced services anymore, and their customer pool is being reduced to tourists at the airport and old people who don't know how to use smart phone apps.

This post was edited by zarkadon on Feb 3 2019 05:58am

cute, but you don't actually expect people not to notice the lazy hackery you're attempting there, do you? making a general observation that quite obviously does NOT apply to the case you're replying to, in order to distract from and downplay the real economic consequences of brexit.
feel free to name some cases where brexit is falsely blamed, i am by no means claiming that doesn't happen, but suggesting this is true for nissan sunderland is just dishonest...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1070509/Brexit-news-UK-EU-Slovakia-Jacob-Rees-Mogg-Jaguar-Land-Rover-job-latest


Jaguar back in 2015 had decided to eventually move 2350 jobs from a car factory in the UK to Slovakia, based on the Slovakian government being able to offer them 110 million pounds in subsidies, which the Slovaks paid out of an EU structural development fund.
Now, they issue a statement announcing that a total of 4500 jobs will be cut in the UK, and place blame on the continuing uncertainty surrounding Brexit.

Admittedly, the article in a bit sensational, focusing too much on the "UK payments to the EU were used to lure away jobs form the UK to Slovakia"-take on this development, and it is uncertain whether these 2350 jobs would have been cut anyway, and for example been relocated to Mexico instead if Slovakia hadnt offered them subsidies. Nonetheless, the decision to cut these jobs was made in 2015, well before the Brexit referendum, and now, the Brexit (or the chaotic Brexit process) is falsely blamed for these specific job cuts.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 3 2019 06:59am

Leaving EU has to appears as a painful mistake on the eyes of the world, each time there's a drama and Brexit is truly or falsely involved; it's Brexit's fault, not Europe.

Everything is working fine, and it's not over

so you managed to read the part of my post that acknowledged these things happen (and even then you couldn't help but misrepresent some of the facts, like claiming the EU directly paid for it, like JLR was exclusively blaming brexit, or that it is 'uncertain' if those jobs would not have been lost anyway).

but do you admit that nissan's decision about sunderland, the one that triggered your pivot, is NOT one of those cases?

I never claimed otherwise.

All I'm saying is that posting a singular incident in which job cuts are blamed on Brexit does not prove or disprove the Remainers' narrative, just like a singular post, from say Ghot or Helical, in which an issue is blamed on the EU neither proves nor disproves the narrative of the Brexiteers.

Moreover, looking at job cuts right now, at the period of the highest uncertainty, will introduce some bias into the greater picture - depending on how the Brexit goes down in the end, the economic/job market impact could be very bad, as predicted by you and your kin, or it could turn out far less dramatic. A fair assessment of the economic impact of Brexit will simply not be possible until ~1-2 years after it has happened.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 3 2019 07:44am

The decision to not produce the x-trail and Qashqai in Sunderland ?