I think you can compare alot about the two, in seriousness, as long as you dont equate them.

Dude, be honest with yourself. They're being equated. If you want to make a nuanced point about the similarities between the policies go for it, but that's not done by putting Bernie in a picture next to mass murderes and including him in "the most dangerous group".

You really don't. A war torn failed third world state being governed by various warlords is not representative of the merits or substance of libertarianism or anarcho-capitalism. Yet here you are trumpeting somalia as its conclusion.
At no point do ancaps or libertarians here indicate that removing current state police or the current government are the sole requirements for a productive libertarian/ancap society.


Labeling Ron Paul 'nationalistic' seems a bit strained and bizarre.
Ron Paul directly opposed Hitlers form of government and its implementation.

I can complain or criticize something whenever I feel like it and reserve the right to point out ridiculous comparisons.
You could also point out they both liked dogs. It would be essentially meaningless in a conversation about harm in politics.
In the case of marxism being dangerous that is an inherent trait in political leaders looking to violently enforce it on a massive scale. The devastation and poverty is not merely coincidental, but rather causal.



Obviously the picture has some level of humor and shock value and they are not exactly the same.
Do you think when NWA had the original picture they were saying all of them were exactly equal and the same? Or were there differences?

But a potential president Sanders enforcing his tyrannical impoverishing agenda certainly IS extremely dangerous.
Would you like to argue otherwise?

Ah, it's bullshit, okay.

Libertarianism doesn't make a distinction between ideal freedom and effective freedom. It's hard to have an intelligent discussion then. You can incarcerate a person, tell him he's free to escape, and then say it's his fault he couldn't break free. If you don't see an issue, then at least you're being consistent

This post was edited by Neptunus on Sep 25 2015 02:56pm

Yes claiming libertarians are opposed to intelligent discussions while you cowardly hide from intellectual debate with one is bullshit.
Do you have a problem with that assessment or were you conceding the point?


This is an actual strawman and a shitty analogy.
You awkwardly lurch away from what was said with halfbaked claims about your understanding of libertarianism rather than attempting to refute what I said or back up your claims.
Libertarianism isn't blaming prisoners for not breaking free, nor are they calling literal imprisonment freedom. Not even analogously. Nor is that relevant to the issue of your intellectual bankruptcy and juvenileness.
They do however have plenty of literature explaining liberty and what they advocate and why, (a not-insignificant portion of which that is dedicated to addressing negative vs positive liberty,) that you wont bother to consult before pretending you understand what they believe and do.
Banning the options of poor people and taking away some of the better ways available for them to have a better life there isn't giving them more 'effective freedom' or a higher quality of life either. It worsens their condition.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Sep 25 2015 03:28pm

I only made a point to separate ideal freedom from effective freedom. I don't claim libertarianism is like that, but there are parallels. People are born into conditions that undoubtedly affect their choices.

I know enough about social sciences and state macroeconomics to see that very few issues can have an objective and utilitarian solutions to them. Objectivity is based on collective values and utilitarianism requires a definition of what is good, and that's why i don't bother discussing "facts". European countries have higher standards of living than the US by many metrics, but what does social equality through authoritarian measures matter to you if you value liberty more than that.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Sep 25 2015 03:41pm