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Mar 1 2019 08:37am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 1 2019 07:30am)
I'm not talking about all modern day immigrants, I'm specifically talking about those who are culturally incompatible. For the record: most hispanic immigrants ARE culturally compatible.

What happened to the native americans still is an excellent cautionary tale about the dangers of unrestricted immigration of the kind where successful integration is unlikely.


It's not unrestricted

we are not without security

they are not invaders

there is no emergency

A big chunk of this country ("culture") are still racists that support the police state and cages for the poor and incarceration for addiction and personal non violent choices

descendants of genocidal rapists that are constantly living in fear that others will do to them what their grandparents did to others here while pushing that fear and hate on the poor looking for opportunity

no thanks.
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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 1 2019 09:37am)
It's not unrestricted

we are not without security

they are not invaders

there is no emergency

A big chunk of this country ("culture") are still racists that support the police state and cages for the poor and incarceration for addiction and personal non violent choices

descendants of genocidal rapists that are constantly living in fear that others will do to them what their grandparents did to others here while pushing that fear and hate on the poor looking for opportunity

no thanks.


Open borders and sanctuary cities are EXTREMELY unpopular <25%.

If you want to lose in 2020, keep supporting it.
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and lawlesness creates a hellhole with no opportunity like mexico where people have to run from, so police state hating crackheads can move there any time they like

just dont invade mexico illegally cause they will throw you in a cage for that there

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 1 2019 08:14am)
Open borders and sanctuary cities are EXTREMELY unpopular <25%.

If you want to lose in 2020, keep supporting it.


I've never supported open borders. Trump and his hacks pretend like not supporting a Trump wall is supporting open borders. Facts don't care about your feelings

Quote (HeLiCaL @ Mar 1 2019 08:18am)
and lack of lawlesness creates a hellhole with no opportunity like mexico where people have to run from, so police state hating crackheads can move there any time they like

just dont invade mexico illegally cause they will throw you in a cage for that there


Our law and order has improved under trump

more rich white guys facing consequences for their illegal activity than I can remember in my lifetime

some real swamp draining going on
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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 1 2019 10:25am)
I've never supported open borders. Trump and his hacks pretend like not supporting a Trump wall is supporting open borders. Facts don't care about your feelings



Our law and order has improved under trump

more rich white guys facing consequences for their illegal activity than I can remember in my lifetime

some real swamp draining going on



If you dont prevent crossings ... that is the definition of open borders ...
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 1 2019 08:45am)
If you dont prevent crossings ... that is the definition of open borders ...


If the issue is cost of illegal immigration you have a long way to go to show a giant Trump wall paid for by the taxpayers is going to be worth the limited resources

No rational person thinks the Trump wall (in realistic form) is actually going to prevent people from coming over undocumented
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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 1 2019 10:49am)
If the issue is cost of illegal immigration you have a long way to go to show a giant Trump wall paid for by the taxpayers is going to be worth the limited resources

No rational person thinks the Trump wall (in realistic form) is actually going to prevent people from coming over undocumented


Youre changing the subject and moving the goalposts now.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 1 2019 09:33am)
Youre changing the subject and moving the goalposts now.


Get Trump to fulfill his campaign promise of getting mexico to pay for his mighty wall and I'll support it

and you can go after whoever on the left calls it immoral or opposes a wall we didn't pay for

until then you can save your feelings over facts

The wall in the way Trump spent years selling it is not the best use of limited resources and since conservatives are feelings over facts on this issue and want to sacrifice the better uses of funds and the better methods of addressing the root of the problem maybe they are the ones that are truly in support of undocumented immigration and the financial benefit that comes from it?
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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 1 2019 11:37am)
Get Trump to fulfill his campaign promise of getting mexico to pay for his mighty wall and I'll support it

and you can go after whoever on the left calls it immoral or opposes a wall we didn't pay for

until then you can save your feelings over facts

The wall in the way Trump spent years selling it is not the best use of limited resources and since conservatives are feelings over facts on this issue and want to sacrifice the better uses of funds and the better methods of addressing the root of the problem maybe they are the ones that are truly in support of undocumented immigration and the financial benefit that comes from it?


The democrats didnt oppose the wall. They obstructed any form of border security and ICE support. Your argument falls apart.
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