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Feb 8 2019 08:31pm
Cambo is the first to abandon principles, libertarians do not have any :D
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 8 2019 09:31pm)
Cambo is the first to abandon principles, libertarians do not have any :D


Its astonishing how unintelligent and dishonest you are.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 9 2019 04:47am)
You are mindlessly parroting the orange man bad narrative of the day

Trump appointing a handful of high-profile people who were in some of his golf clubs isn't registering on the list of real problems.
Opposing Newt Gingrich's wife as an ambassador isnt the libertarian cause of the year.


Oh ok..
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 9 2019 02:14pm)
Its astonishing how unintelligent and dishonest you are.


Says the small government hypocrite supporting cronyism..
I am more intelligent than you, i prove it every time we clash and you post 400 pages of crap by rothbard and i use my own actual thoughts and words to demolish you.
You always resort to this desperate tantrum of calling everyone who disagrees with you unintelligent but the fact is the average us police officer has a higher iq than you and you are a nobody.
You are not some mind blowing prodigy who sprang up from nowhere and amazed people around the world with his brilliant knowledge and intelligence, your are a glorified parrot who quotes people a lot smarter than you who are also wrong.
You constantly go on about your libertarian crap whilst supporting trump 24/7 no matter how bad he gets, trump is about as libertarian as anyone on the left, less so than some of them but you are here kissing his ass all day regardless.

Fact is you are not a libertarian, you are a republican shill who tries to sound intelligent by repeating stuff you read in books by people you think are cool, you do not know the first thing about libertarianism, and the fact that you follow the corrupt right wing version of it which is just dressed up neoliberalism shows that you barely even understand the basics of the system of beliefs you base your entire persona on.
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Feb 8 2019 09:46pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 8 2019 10:25pm)
Oh ok..


Says the small government hypocrite supporting cronyism..


I did not support cronyism. I pointed out the fact that a handful of tons of ambassadors being members of trumps golf clubs at some point is not a big issue. You are not a serious person if you think this is a big issue.
Ambassadors are often friends of the president.

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I am more intelligent than you, i prove it every time we clash and you post 400 pages of crap by rothbard and i use my own actual thoughts and words to demolish you.


You are literally an insane person. You brush off any and all arguments and sources without refuting them and declare you don't have to read anything.
That isnt 'demolishing' me. Its cowardice and delusion and willful ignorance.


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You always resort to this desperate tantrum of calling everyone who disagrees with you unintelligent but the fact is the average us police officer has a higher iq than you and you are a nobody.


more delusion and unsubstantiated insults.


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You are not some mind blowing prodigy who sprang up from nowhere and amazed people around the world with his brilliant knowledge and intelligence, your are a glorified parrot who quotes people a lot smarter than you who are also wrong.


I never claimed to be a prodigy or world-inspiring person.
I am however someone who is smarter and more informed than human garbage.


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You constantly go on about your libertarian crap whilst supporting trump 24/7 no matter how bad he gets,

This is also false. I have disagreed with and criticized trump on a significant number of his positions.
Arguing against the idiocy you lot tend to post is not 'always supporting him'. Give yourself a few minutes to logically think that over.

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trump is about as libertarian as anyone on the left, less so than some of them but you are here kissing his ass all day regardless.

This is also false. I have on a number of occasions elaborated on the fact that leftists are radically anti-libertarian on a large number of issues and often are conflicting with Trump on these points.

I dont expect some commie fool who is opposed to reading and critical thought to be an expert on libertarianism, so why are you pretending to be an authority on it?


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Fact is you are not a libertarian, you are a republican shill who tries to sound intelligent by repeating stuff you read in books by people you think are cool, you do not know the first thing about libertarianism, and the fact that you follow the corrupt right wing version of it which is just dressed up neoliberalism shows that you barely even understand the basics of the system of beliefs you base your entire persona on.


You have taken further steps off the ledge of absurdity.

The fact that I am a well-read libertarian who supports economic and social liberty does not at all indicate that i don't know the basics of my own beliefs. That is pure fallacy.
I never claimed to be an 18th century socialist 'libertarian' and have not indicated that I am unaware of the words origin. Modern 'right'-libertarianism is a distinct and valid ideology.
Calling it corrupt is another non-argument.

I am a staunch libertarian. You cant find any instances of me supporting big government.
Its just an absolutely pathetic tactic to declare im not a libertarian and that im a shill because you get frustrated, have poor character and cant refute my arguments.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Feb 8 2019 10:02pm
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Feb 8 2019 10:13pm
'all democrats are just as libertarian if not more' Exhibit A:



Exhibit B:

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Refit every single one of the ~170 million+ structures in America to be state of the art energy efficient.
Replace all ~300 million+ internal combustion engine passenger vehicles, work vehicles and equipment to be electric.
Repair and upgrade all US infrastructure and industry
Replace the entire US electrical grid with a 'smart grid'
Eliminate all cow farts and airplanes
Replace all domestic air traffic with high speed rail lines (Mazie Hirono interjected at this point to add "That would be pretty hard for Hawaii")
Provide public transportation to all Americans everywhere
Create enough renewable energy production to provide for the entire US power grid with zero fossil fuels (estimates at covering 12% of the US landmass in turbines before the extra power needs of a fully electric society)
End all domestic fossil fuel production, consumption and exports
Guarantee economic security all Americans who are unwilling to work


This post was edited by cambovenzi on Feb 8 2019 10:32pm
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Feb 8 2019 10:29pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 8 2019 09:13pm)
'all democrats are just as a libertarian if not more' Exhibit A:

https://i.imgur.com/OXPwtDy.png

Exhibit B:


why are the mentally ill communists so often trans?
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Feb 8 2019 11:02pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 9 2019 02:46pm)
I did not support cronyism. I pointed out the fact that a handful of tons of ambassadors being members of trumps golf clubs at some point is not a big issue. You are not a serious person if you think this is a big issue.
Ambassadors are often friends of the president.



You are literally an insane person. You brush off any and all arguments and sources without refuting them and declare you don't have to read anything.
That isnt 'demolishing' me. Its cowardice and delusion and willful ignorance.




more delusion and unsubstantiated insults.




I never claimed to be a prodigy or world-inspiring person.
I am however someone who is smarter and more informed than human garbage.



This is also false. I have disagreed with and criticized trump on a significant number of his positions.
Arguing against the idiocy you lot tend to post is not 'always supporting him'. Give yourself a few minutes to logically think that over.


This is also false. I have on a number of occasions elaborated on the fact that leftists are radically anti-libertarian on a large number of issues and often are conflicting with Trump on these points.

I dont expect some commie fool who is opposed to reading and critical thought to be an expert on libertarianism, so why are you pretending to be an authority on it?




You have taken further steps off the ledge of absurdity.

The fact that I am a well-read libertarian who supports economic and social liberty does not at all indicate that i don't know the basics of my own beliefs. That is pure fallacy.
I never claimed to be an 18th century socialist 'libertarian' and have not indicated that I am unaware of the words origin. Modern 'right'-libertarianism is a distinct and valid ideology.
Calling it corrupt is another non-argument.

I am a staunch libertarian. You cant find any instances of me supporting big government.
Its just an absolutely pathetic tactic to declare im not a libertarian and that im a shill because you get frustrated, have poor character and cant refute my arguments.


:rofl:
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Feb 8 2019 11:04pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 9 2019 12:02am)
:rofl:


I expected worse than this reply tbh. congratulations on one of your better contributions.
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Feb 8 2019 11:30pm
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 8 2019 09:32am)
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1093892623176220673

It never ceases to amaze me how Trump's people act like him.




he really did make a big point about 5 minute limits
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