Quote (IceMage @ Feb 27 2019 10:27am)

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Kim Jong-un gets fatter every time.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 27 2019 10:15am)

Do you know the split on advertising to doctors (pharma reps, dinners, etc) versus public commercials? Ive never seen a stat on it.

We had a bioethics class last semester and one of the lectures was on taking money, gifts, etc from pharmaceutical companies. Basically told us as long as you disclose what you take you can take whatever you want that they will give.

It was funny because one of my peers used to be a walmart sales guy and it was an instantly fireable offense to take anything from the companies whos products he was buying, so he was quite confused how doctors are held to a lower standard than walmart sales managers.

Quote (Santara @ 27 Feb 2019 12:16)

The largest share, by far, of medical advances also come from the USA, likely because companies have a harder time recouping investments in R&D when the other countries limit it.

Quote (fender @ Feb 27 2019 11:51am)

that's such a bs pivot, introducing absolute numbers here when in terms of relative numbers (as in 'per capita' - like the stat you're coparing it to), countries like switzerland, denmark, sweden, finland, norway, the netherlands, belgium, austria, the uk, germany, australia... still shit on you.
furthermore, over two thirds of the r&d development funding comes from the industry - probably not surprising considering a significant portion of the money is spent on slightly altering (not improving) medication to extend patents and thus the monopolies necessary for insane price hikes. why do you hate the free market so much?

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Quote (Santara @ 27 Feb 2019 19:29)

No, none of those countries spend more per capita than the USA, you ignorant fuck. Switzerland does, but they also have a better overall system (and one that isn't genuinely universal, either).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_research_and_development_spending

No shit the money comes from industry. Where do you think industry gets their fucking revenue? From price-capped sales into your universal systems, or in the freer market over here?

Jesus Christ, could you be more fucking off base?

I laugh every time you cry about "pivot," as if people owe you a duty to engage a topic on your terms and don't have their own points of view. Fuck off.

Quote (fender @ Feb 27 2019 12:39pm)

you can't make a fair on-topic point, so you resort to simple-minded flaming.
you think slightly altering medication in order to extend patents to secure MONOPOLIES and then jacking up prices of lifesaving drugs is the way to go? because that's what happens in america in case you didn't know that yet. it's funny how the industry is doing incredibly well without doing that over here, it's almost like they CAN indeed generate revenue despite 'evil' price-capped sales. all news to you i guess...

Quote (Santara @ 27 Feb 2019 19:45)

I know reading is so hard for you, but I simultaneously made excellent on-topic points AND insulted you.

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Quote (Santara @ Feb 27 2019 03:10am)

That's how you get elected in the GOP, right?

Quote (Santara @ Feb 27 2019 11:30am)

I've never seen one either, but I'm sure doctors receive a significant proportion of the advertising dollars.

The difference kind of makes sense though. A doctor wouldn't be ethically obligated because he wouldn't be "spending" his employer's money. A WalMart purchasing agent is spending his employer's money to purchase products. I deal with something similar: local tire and accessory vendors with products to sell often offer gift cards and other rewards for the purchase of their products. Any such gifts are accepted, but are turned over to the dealer to use for the dealership.