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Feb 5 2019 12:29pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 5 2019 10:31am)
It's getting to the point where I can't read your posts without doing so in Ben Shaprio's annoying voice

I like that you put time into your posts and how you conduct yourself here thus far but you're just parroting nearly word for word my man

I think you should take in more non-conservative content it just really shows in your posts and I don't mean any of this with any sort of disrespect


Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 5 2019 12:25pm)
Yes im being hyperbolic genius. when i say parrot, i dont mean literally saying phrases word for word verbatim. what i mean is someone who repeats arguments and each of their facets. when you're talking to GLY about the border wall you might as well be talking to Ben Shapiro. "Israel has a great wall, the federal budget is so big that we spend this much all the time, tunnels are a joke of a conversation i dont need to address with actual facts, and anyone who doesnt want a wall is just anti-trump". it's a carbon copy of the argument.

this happens to all of us, and the smart ones credit the better person who came up with it. when i want to source shapiro's argument verbatim i usually say something like "shapiro said on his show yesterday, and he's right, ______" rather than lazily trying to pawn them off as my own thoughts.

you've just missed the mark. while i dont agree with shapiro i'm not criticizing his argument entirely (just addressing biases and logical mistakes as a cherry on top), i'm laughing while pointing out this weeks clone. we get a shapiro clone all the time, they either adapt or leave.


Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 5 2019 10:31am)
It's getting to the point where I can't read your posts without doing so in Ben Shaprio's annoying voice

I like that you put time into your posts and how you conduct yourself here thus far but you're just parroting nearly word for word my man

I think you should take in more non-conservative content it just really shows in your posts and I don't mean any of this with any sort of disrespect


I dont think ive ever even watched a segment on Shapiro talking about the borderwalls effectiveness, or in regards to Obamacare.
I've read plenty of information online, and thought of many things myself whole proceeding to research those thoughts with more online researching.

But I take that as a compliment if you think those points were directly tied to Shapiro.
I mainly watch independent people voice their opinions in regards to subjects.
I doubt Shapiros content is even a 1/10th of what I watch, in fact, I know it isn't.

If I was parroting, you should be able to find one specific link or video that has all of my points in it, you won't.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Feb 5 2019 12:31pm
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Feb 5 2019 12:33pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 5 2019 07:34pm)
thanks for showing your ignorance. im not talking about the shitty little holes they dig under fences, im talking about the 3 foot wide actual tunnels, some a mile long, 3 stories under the wall.

but again, thanks for latching on to recent stories to show your lack of depth on the topic, its refreshing when you kids shoot your own feet.

you thought i meant a hole 3 feet deep to sneak beneath the wall costs 185k and the cartel pays for it? how embarrassing, try harder man, we're all laughing at you.


i actually didnt think about anything so you balls-deep'd your own pompous head with projections

nothing that democrats propose as alternative to the wall counters such tunnels either, but i have doubts that cartel rents them to honduras caravans, so for them it should be enough

This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Feb 5 2019 12:33pm
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Feb 5 2019 12:33pm
Quote (GLYC123 @ Feb 5 2019 11:29am)
I dont think ive ever even watched a segment on Shapiro talking about the borderwalls effectiveness, or in regards to Obamacare.
I've read plenty of information online, and thought of many things myself whole proceeding to research those thoughts with more online researching.

But I take that as a compliment if you think those points were directly tied to Shapiro.
I mainly watch independent people voice their opinions in regards to subjects. I doubt Shapiros content is even a 1/10th of where I form an opinion from.

If I was parroting, you should be able to find one specific link or video that has all of my points in it, you won't.


I'd rather admit defeat than to go through a "shapiro DESTROYS LIBTARDS" "SHAPIRO OWNS THE LEFT ANNIHILATED FATALITY" compilation

About 95% of my daily non moderate content is conservative and I catch Shapiro's shows most days despite very much not liking him so if my word ain't good enough I'll just have to take the loss
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Feb 5 2019 12:34pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 5 2019 01:27pm)
the irony of that sentence is hurting my brain.


Mediocre and the writing off I have in mind don't make it ironic. This speech is already bigoted, hate filled, and will have nazi undertones and sign language.

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Feb 5 2019 12:39pm
Quote (GLYC123 @ Feb 5 2019 12:29pm)
I dont think ive ever even watched a segment on Shapiro talking about the borderwalls effectiveness, or in regards to Obamacare.
I've read plenty of information online, and thought of many things myself whole proceeding to research those thoughts with more online researching.

But I take that as a compliment if you think those points were directly tied to Shapiro.
I mainly watch independent people voice their opinions in regards to subjects.
I doubt Shapiros content is even a 1/10th of what I watch, in fact, I know it isn't.

If I was parroting, you should be able to find one specific link or video that has all of my points in it, you won't.


wait, are you serious about that part?

would this be a decent summary of your points: (?)

1. Israel's wall being effective is precedent for a US wall being effective
2. Tunnels won't be an effective counter to the wall
3. The federal budget spends $5bn all the time
4. Drugs and MS13 are crossing the border with ease
5. Anyone anti wall is doing so out of anti trum reeeeeesist mentality
6. If obama asked for a wall he'd get it instantly



because if so that's literally every single episode of the Shapiro show for the last month on the southern border wall topic.

israel's wall isn't congruent to the US wall, it's not directly comparable. and the "tunnels wont work" narrative implies tech requirements that greatly exceed the $5bn pricetag, which undercuts the "we spend this all the time in the federal budget" point.

in short, Israel's wall isn't an end-all-be-all argument ender. and to stop the drugs and MS13 that the border wall is aimed at they'll need to spend far more than the $5bn fencing ask, which means the federal budget narrative is bullshit.

if you're not parrotting shapiro specifically whomever you're listening to is, or shapiro is parroting them. in any case those general points are illogical and factually incorrect. they make sense only to someone with a cursory knowledge of the border issue. the real "fix" for the border issue would cost closer to $100bn in the long run, easily.

Quote (HeLiCaL @ Feb 5 2019 12:33pm)
i actually didnt think about anything


wow.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Feb 5 2019 12:46pm)
Glad to see you're finally coming to terms with the truth.


that was quite the Freudian slip.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 5 2019 12:47pm
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Feb 5 2019 12:33pm)
i actually didnt think about anything so you balls-deep'd your own pompous head with projections

nothing that democrats propose as alternative to the wall counters such tunnels either, but i have doubts that cartel rents them to honduras caravans, so for them it should be enough


Glad to see you're finally coming to terms with the truth.
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Feb 5 2019 01:48pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Feb 5 2019 11:46am)
Glad to see you're finally coming to terms with the truth.


:lol:
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Feb 5 2019 01:56pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 5 2019 02:34pm)
i'd charge with them with a hate crime because of race as the motivating factor for the crime - and i see their actions as racist
i also guarantee you there's no shortage of conservatives or trump supporters who would share this view for that particular incident - this isn't strictly sjw territory


The people were also yelling out not onoy "fuck Donald Trump", but also "fuck white people".


Some Antifa guys, that claimed to be "anti-nazis" were recently arrested for attacking two Mexican veterans that they thought were there to attend a pro-life rally or pro-patriot something, I think they said they thought they might have been proud boys or something,

They yelled out "fuck beaners" or some other anti-mexican term after they started hitting them and were arrested with additional hate crime charges.

Really as long as they can find a racial motivation, I think they could try for it.
I could theoretically, shoot someone who was in a sweatshirt and perceive them for being a black person, and if that person was actually found to be white. I would get charged with a hate crime. Assuming I shot that person only because I perceived them as black.

With Liams comment regarding the "black bastard" comment and with the story, I think he could be classified with hate crime assuming he had assaulted someone.

It's a weird thing overall.
The behavior alone likely just needs to be shunned in a lot of cases. But people always try to make race a part of it, which, I don't know if it really helps anybody. The scapegoat thing and making an example out of people I just think is making things worse because you're creating this extra divide based on race.

Does this whole thing make Liam racist? I don't know about that.
It does sound like a huge revenge thing, but then, where do you draw the line for that.
It was a temporary lapse? How do we make the distinction? Who knows.

And i guess it was in response to a very serious crime. So he isn't thinking rationally. But. Yeah. Who knows!

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Feb 5 2019 02:04pm
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Feb 5 2019 01:57pm
Quote (Beowulf @ 5 Feb 2019 19:06)
https://i.imgur.com/pCQSPSy.png

Trump showing that he is serious about uniting people tonight

I'm feeling confident he will be able to really pull the citizens together with a speech that is bound to be the greatest speech ever given. Beating out the other greatest speeches ever given that he himself gave.


He has big words, really great words, he's got the best words, and it's gonna be YUGE, just you wait and see! :mad:

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 5 2019 01:58pm
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Feb 5 2019 02:07pm
in other news, my favourite song that got deleted off youtube for being too racist is still available for those that want to listen to a dope beat while smashing the white patriarchy
https://picosong.com/RMET/
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