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Mar 30 2020 12:06pm
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To you everything is an oppression pattern.

Dumbfuck, we had rich white folks dying from cancer in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s yet the big advancements didn't happen until more recently? Kind of like the HIV treatments?

See a pattern of how as medical tech and research got better as time went on we got better at treating pretty much everything?


TIL technology cannot advance at the same time as changing social support, and a nearly universally accepted historical understanding can crumble at the hands of "lol noob, technology just advanced like everything else!"

Your laziness is cringeworthy
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TIL technology cannot advance at the same time as changing social support, and a nearly universally accepted historical understanding can crumble at the hands of "lol noob, technology just advanced like everything else!"

Your laziness is cringeworthy


More dick riding. Feel free to back up your claim empirically, that HIV treatments getting better aren't as a result of the general betterment of medical tech instead it's because it started affecting some privileged class. Incredible how someone in science can come up with such outlandish, idiotic claims.

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More dick riding. Feel free to back up your claim empirically, that HIV treatments getting better aren't as a result of the general betterment of medical tech instead it's because it started affecting some privileged class. Incredible how someone in science can come up with such outlandish, idiotic claims.


Keep digging.
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Mar 30 2020 12:12pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 30 2020 01:09pm)
More dick riding. Feel free to back up your claim empirically, that HIV treatments getting better aren't as a result of the general betterment of medical tech instead it's because it started affecting some privileged class. Incredible how someone in science can come up with such outlandish, idiotic claims.


Honestly, there's no reason to back up what we're saying. What we're saying is so uncontroversial that if you were actually interested in understanding you would have dug into it yourself.

As for the bolded, again, your laziness is cringe worthy. There can be multiple things happening at once, and a look at the willingness of people to fund HIV treatments over time easily demonstrates that, but you aren't going to actually look into it because you already think you have a Ph.D in medical history.
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Mar 30 2020 12:14pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 30 2020 02:10pm)
Keep digging.


Provide peer reviewed research for your idiotic claims maybe. If the extent of your analysis is Reagan this, heroin that then lol, literally tinfoil.

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Honestly, there's no reason to back up what we're saying. What we're saying is so uncontroversial that if you were actually interested in understanding you would have dug into it yourself.

As for the bolded, again, your laziness is cringe worthy. There can be multiple things happening at once, and a look at the willingness of people to fund HIV treatments over time easily demonstrates that, but you aren't going to actually look into it because you already think you have a Ph.D in medical history.


I'll look at scientific papers you post, except you never do and just call me lazy and just dodge when i keep asking for you to back up your claims.

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Mar 30 2020 12:23pm
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Provide peer reviewed research for your idiotic claims maybe. If the extent of your analysis is Reagan this, heroin that then lol, literally tinfoil.

I'll look at scientific papers you post, except you never do and just call me lazy and just dodge when i keep asking for you to back up your claims.


Why would I post papers to somebody who hasn't done even the most basic level of research? It's not my job to introduce you to the field so we can have a discussion.

If you were even passingly familiar with what we are talking about you wouldn't be calling us idiots for posting this, you would be acknowledging the consensus and saying why you disagree, but instead you're using an argument that fundamentally hinges in the impossibility of two things happening at once.
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Mar 30 2020 12:26pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 30 2020 02:23pm)
Why would I post papers to somebody who hasn't done even the most basic level of research? It's not my job to introduce you to the field so we can have a discussion.

If you were even passingly familiar with what we are talking about you wouldn't be calling us idiots for posting this, you would be acknowledging the consensus and saying why you disagree, but instead you're using an argument that fundamentally hinges in the impossibility of two things happening at once.


Once again no actual research. Just opinions and ad hominem.

If your premise was true you could generate research in a matter of seconds, faster than it took you to type this.
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Mar 30 2020 12:27pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 30 2020 12:39pm)
I don't think it is because HIV was always deadly so people kind of accepted that compared to corona which until a few months ago was no worse than the common cold. It's not as if HIV went from a .02% percent death rate to 50x over a few months, if that would of happened we would of been panicking similarly to the corona.


i wasnt an adult during the time of HIV crisis but ive heard from multiple older people that corona has a lot of similarities in how people dont know how its spread, who has it, and what to expect for treatment when you get it. i think its a good comparison, even tho they're not equivalent.
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Mar 30 2020 12:28pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 30 2020 01:26pm)
Once again no actual research. Just opinions and ad hominem.

If your premise was true you could generate research in a matter of seconds, faster than it took you to type this.


Why would I though? If it's really obvious that you don't even know the basics, why would I bother trying to introduce you to it?
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Mar 30 2020 12:46pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 31 2020 05:09am)
More dick riding. Feel free to back up your claim empirically, that HIV treatments getting better aren't as a result of the general betterment of medical tech instead it's because it started affecting some privileged class. Incredible how someone in science can come up with such outlandish, idiotic claims.


Those claims are public knowledge and well and truly researched, you could find this on google.
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