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May 6 2016 04:06pm
Quote (excellence @ May 6 2016 04:04pm)
"trump will lose trump lose trump lose rahhhhhhhhhhhh!" -el Beowulf
we get it


Unless something wildly changes trump has no chance
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May 6 2016 04:12pm
Inb4 Trumps Vp pick gets assassinated and the sympathy generated wins him the election.


Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 6 2016 05:01pm)
dont worry, he's just a a troll-asshat, and im sure usa dont have that much asshats to really vote for him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asn_w7lue9w

more videos here

http://www.lemonde.fr/elections-americaines/article/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-feminist-in-chief_4915088_829254.html

enjoy


Hillary was pretty hot in the 70s, no wonder Bill married her.
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May 6 2016 05:01pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 6 2016 02:46pm)
I can't wait until the eventual Perot-esque 3rd party run hands a SECOND Clinton the presidency. Billy Boy got it handed to him via a 3rd party split and now Hilldog is a shoe in for the same treatment. Let's all stop acting like the GOP #Nevertrump crowd are down to either A.) Vote Hillary or B.) not Vote. They will have a candidate they toss support to in lieu of Hillary.


I mean it'd be funny, but Bill beat H.W. Bush heads-up in 1992 because Perot pulled nearly-evenly from both. It's almost too late for an Indy to get ballot access surely too late for them to win barring a major electoral shakeup. Perot had gotten into the race early enough to where he was leading in national surveys (which mean nothing) in July when he stupidly quit. He spent all of April and May building steam to jump in, whereas now there's absolutely no consensus Indy draft going on, just blanket opposition to Trump.

The RNC's polling has Trump running behind Clinton in North Carolina right now. I don't know where else they have him down, but if they have him down in NC it stands to reason they have him down in VA/NV/WI/NH/PA. That has Clinton with at least 285 EVs. This polling will change, the press will find some magical way to make this a tied race and maybe even give Trump a lead here and there, but Trump is miles behind. Clinton doesn't need an Indy and neither did Bill.
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May 6 2016 05:05pm
I dont see how VA ever flips red again, northern va is incredibly populated, affluent, and deep blue.
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May 6 2016 05:14pm
Trump's got Cheney's support now

I can't wait to see Trump's compliment tweet that follows endorsements
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May 6 2016 05:14pm
Quote (card_sultan @ 6 May 2016 17:12)
Hillary was pretty hot in the 70s, no wonder Bill married her.


Agreed, she was pretty hot.

Quote (Beowulf @ 6 May 2016 18:14)
Trump's got Cheney's support now

I can't wait to see Trump's compliment tweet that follows endorsements


Cheney's endorsement has the potential to do a lot more damage than a KKK endorsement. :D

This post was edited by general_patton on May 6 2016 05:14pm
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May 6 2016 05:17pm
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Agreed, she was pretty hot.



Cheney's endorsement has the potential to do a lot more damage than a KKK endorsement. :D


Dick Cheney who? I dunno the guy

How can I denounce someone I don't know anything about?
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May 6 2016 05:28pm
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I dont see how VA ever flips red again, northern va is incredibly populated, affluent, and deep blue.


That's pretty close as far as neutral climates go. You never say never, but VA is one of the heaviest lifts for the GOP moving forward and it's not just a problem for Trump. NOVA is diverse and growing fast but their don't stop there: a bigger problem is Richmond, it's heavily African-American and growing. They've got a problem in the SE, Trump especially, because it's diverse, growing, and the Republicans there are moderate and give specific care to the defense industry. They're the "John Hay" society type that belonged to the Romney campaign who simply won't vote for him because they know he can't handle foreign policy. The other problem for the GOP is that their reliable population of votes in the western half of the state is shrinking.

My firm got a ton of initial investments in 2012 on the very simple pitch that "if you donate, the VAGOP will have incredible difficulty winning statewide ever again." That pitch brought in a lot of money and gets made again each year and it keeps working because it keeps working.
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May 6 2016 05:39pm
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I mean it'd be funny, but Bill beat H.W. Bush heads-up in 1992 because Perot pulled nearly-evenly from both. It's almost too late for an Indy to get ballot access surely too late for them to win barring a major electoral shakeup. Perot had gotten into the race early enough to where he was leading in national surveys (which mean nothing) in July when he stupidly quit. He spent all of April and May building steam to jump in, whereas now there's absolutely no consensus Indy draft going on, just blanket opposition to Trump.

The RNC's polling has Trump running behind Clinton in North Carolina right now. I don't know where else they have him down, but if they have him down in NC it stands to reason they have him down in VA/NV/WI/NH/PA. That has Clinton with at least 285 EVs. This polling will change, the press will find some magical way to make this a tied race and maybe even give Trump a lead here and there, but Trump is miles behind. Clinton doesn't need an Indy and neither did Bill.


On the other hand, the libertarian party will be on the ballot in all 50 states, and Gary Johnson pulled 11% in a 3-way with Trump/Clinton. Assuming he wins his lawsuit to gain admittance to the presidential debates, it could be a different 3rd party spoiler come November.
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May 6 2016 05:43pm
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On the other hand, the libertarian party will be on the ballot in all 50 states, and Gary Johnson pulled 11% in a 3-way with Trump/Clinton. Assuming he wins his lawsuit to gain admittance to the presidential debates, it could be a different 3rd party spoiler come November.


Having the libertarian party rise from the ashes of the Republican party's flameout would be amazing. I honestly feel like this is it for the Republicans. It's been a long time coming and they've been staving it off with gerrymandering and voter tricks for a good while. A libertarian party with its shit together could have a president in our lifetimes, with a few lucky breaks here and there.

This post was edited by AiNedeSpelCzech on May 6 2016 05:43pm
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