I think its going to be less and less so in the future. I mean I think the EC will still favor Republicans, but its not going to keep making a difference unless something drastically changes in american voting patterns or demographics. Those 70k votes that got Trump the EC is a pretty slim margin, I think its just as likely that Republicans begin to want election reform several presidential cycles from now as demographics continue to change against them.

Still, I have no damn clue how 2020 will go. Trump has bread a lot of bad blood with his tariff since they hurt far more jobs that depend on foreign steel than steel workers were helped. He gets national points for "he saved these jobs" but in pretty much every case I've looked into the jobs were still shipped overseas and those people aren't going to forget it.

Might just come down to who Democrats put out again, if they put out another Clinton it might not matter.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 21 2019 05:06pm

I agree. I think the democrats can win if they put an good candidate out. But they haven't done that in a long time.

I mean, if you mean good as 'chance of winning" Obama was probably the best candidate since at least Reagan. He probably would have won even without George Bush riling everybody up against Republicans.

Good candidate sure, but not a good president. I know he is smart and a great man, but he followed the will of his party too much and almost all of what he passed through harmed the country.

Nah, if I had to guess how Obama and his policies will be seen in 50 years he's definitely going to be top half if not top quarter.

Maybe. We have yet to observe the long term effects.

Of course its going to take long term, but something would have to come out that was absolutely bonkers terrible for him to sink below top half.

Obama had a chance to be a glorious uniter. He was intelligent but he let his divisiveness overtake his good side. He will be remembered as loud and a little ineffective unfortunately.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Feb 21 2019 05:32pm

If we didnt have republicans who openly admitted they would oppose whatever he wanted on merit of him wanting it I might agree, but the uncooperativeness of the republicans will overshadow anything obama did to divide the country.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 21 2019 05:36pm