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The power of each vote would be equal using the popular vote. The real issue is that it would skew the campaigning and the political attention even further to the big urban centers and away from rural America.
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The power of each vote would be equal using the popular vote. The real issue is that it would skew the campaigning and the political attention even further to the big urban centers and away from rural America.


this. Campaigns would never leave Metropolitan areas. It would just be a tour of LA, NY, Chicago, Houston, Atlanta, ETC.

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The power of each vote would be equal using the popular vote. The real issue is that it would skew the campaigning and the political attention even further to the big urban centers and away from rural America.


This is basically already how campaigning goes though.

Except skewed to the majorly populated areas of swing states.

If the point of the electoral college is to give small states and lower populated areas more attention then it fails in that regard, instead of tyrrany of the majority we have tyrrany of the fickle.
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Related: coca cola will bankrupt.



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This is basically already how campaigning goes though.

Except skewed to the majorly populated areas of swing states.

If the point of the electoral college is to give small states and lower populated areas more attention then it fails in that regard, instead of tyrrany of the majority we have tyrrany of the fickle.


If the president was elected via the popular vote, there would only be minimal campaigning in states like ohio, wisconsin, pennsylvania (outside of Philly) or North Carolina.

As I said: abolishing the EC would skew the campaigning even further towards urban areas and urban policy priorities.

You are right in that the EC does not guarantee a fair representation of all sorts of areas and people among the EC battlegrounds, but in recent years, the mix within the battleground states has been pretty good. The only demographic or cultural group which is clearly underrepresented among current battlegrounds is non-florida/non-cuban hispanics, but this might change with arizona becoming a very purple state, and with the recent influx of puerto ricans into florida.

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If the president was elected via the popular vote, there would only be minimal campaigning in states like ohio, wisconsin, pennsylvania (outside of Philly) or North Carolina.

As I said: abolishing the EC would skew the campaigning even further towards urban areas and urban policy priorities.

You are right in that the EC does not guarantee a fair representation of all sorts of areas and people among the EC battlegrounds, but in recent years, the mix within the battleground states has been pretty good. The only demographic or cultural group which is clearly underrepresented among current battlegrounds is non-florida/non-cuban hispanics, but this might change with arizona becoming a very purple state, and with the recent influx of puerto ricans into florida.


I wouldnt go to popular vote, but the current system still blows. We could make some basic reforms but those have been discussed to death and the current way benefits two parties so it's unlikely to ever get passed
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coca-cola death squads? 'has nothing to do with capitalism though.'
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Only way coca cola will be saved is if they provide a tasty healthy alternative ( to some degree) to their current line...

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coca-cola death squads? 'has nothing to do with capitalism though.'


I'm glad millennials aren't buying it, lets hope this sugar-kill culture will vanish asap.
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I wouldnt go to popular vote, but the current system still blows. We could make some basic reforms but those have been discussed to death and the current way benefits two parties so it's unlikely to ever get passed


hm, I consider it well within the realm of possible that Trump wins via the EC despite losing the popular vote again in 2020; and I can see Republicans being at an advantage in the EC well into the 2030s.

the party which is at an advantage in the EC has historically swung a lot, almost from election to election, but if we enter a longer period where it favors one party, we might see more concerted efforts to reform it.
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