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Jan 29 2019 07:15pm
Quote (fender @ Jan 29 2019 08:09pm)
no it's not. you completely made up the 'exclusive' part. 'cult' is not so much a reference to the exclusiveness, but more to the blind devotion and obedience that his loyal followers display - regardless of broken promises, blatant lies, hypocrisy, and obvious incompetence.
it's a well known fact that 25-30% of americans are stupid enough to uncritically support him no matter what - combine that with a significant portion of voters who'd vote for anyone who has that magic (R) next to their name, because it's just their 'team', it makes almost every election close enough for the EC to swing it in favour of republicans (sometimes the SC has to help a little, conservatives are as principled about states' rights as they are about deficits), cementing its function of facilitating a tyranny of the minority...


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i've seen you make worse post, so just posting random emojis might be a winning strategy for you. take care, mate...
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Yes we will. Like I said, at this point ill vote for a rock if it ends this sad administration. Due to the world we live in the only chance at that will be a dem so thats it. Whoever the dem is gets my vote. All others are just giving votes to the cult.


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Jan 29 2019 07:23pm
Quote (fender @ Jan 29 2019 08:18pm)
i've seen you make worse post, so just posting random emojis might be a winning strategy for you. take care, mate...


Emotional honesty is something the left will probably never understand. Their idealogy denies their own human qualities out of fear.
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Jan 29 2019 08:02pm
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Yes we will. Like I said, at this point ill vote for a rock if it ends this sad administration. Due to the world we live in the only chance at that will be a dem so thats it. Whoever the dem is gets my vote. All others are just giving votes to the cult.

So, you’re going to vote accordingly with the left, regardless of who it is, or what they’re running on...& then call the other side the ‘cult’

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Quote (Brian_D @ 29 Jan 2019 20:31)
Yes we will. Like I said, at this point ill vote for a rock if it ends this sad administration. Due to the world we live in the only chance at that will be a dem so thats it. Whoever the dem is gets my vote. All others are just giving votes to the cult.

>i am “politically neutral” but only voting for one party and f that other guy tryna make it as an independent

silly privileged lefties like you are a riot. keep sucking down those roid needles wierdo..pathetic
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So, you’re going to vote accordingly with the left, regardless of who it is, or what they’re running on...& then call the other side the ‘cult’

https://i.ibb.co/M9C8VSj/53-E2-DEF0-F8-FD-4392-9652-94-E4-A6-D1-A007.jpg


I mean, if you disagree strongly enough with the other side everything else will be more closely aligned with your values.

Unless you think they're not going to run Trump and swap over to a moderate-heavy Republican, in which case he clearly wouldn't be taking this stance.
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I mean, if you disagree strongly enough with the other side everything else will be more closely aligned with your values.

Unless you think they're not going to run Trump and swap over to a moderate-heavy Republican, in which case he clearly wouldn't be taking this stance.


I want the 2020 election to be literally Trump vs Trump
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it is retarded, but it is equally retarded how the climate change cultists in the liberal media tried to portray the very hot summer last year as proof for the seriousness of climate change. hell, the German press even tried to spin the heavy snowfall in the alpine region 2 weeks ago as evidence for climate change. so yes, mixing up weather and climate is stupid, but both sides do it happily when it helps their cause.

nice whataboutism / false equivalence combo, but some extreme weather events (including COLD spells) and particularly their (well documented) increasing occurence ARE indeed linked to manmade climate change.


q.e.d.

these articles, of which I will link some examples below, take singular events like a hot summer or humid air (and subsequently heavy snowfall) in january as proof for climate change, or the seriousness/progress of climate change, even though any decently educated person should know that one or two events cant "prove" or "disprove" a trend.

I dont deny that there is a trend of increasing global temperatures, but you just cant deduce it from a hot summer or a precipitation-heavy winter. so in those cases, which are numerous if you actually look out for them, the liberal media is mistaking weather for climate, either out of incompetence or to help their cause. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy this presents, considering how the same disciples of the church of climate change are always ready to jump on anyone who's doing the same thing, mixing up weather and climate, to argue against climate change.



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so please link me some of the articles where 'THE GERMAN PRESS' falsely links it to climate change. also, i'd be interested to learn what you think the "cause" is that they're trying to "help" by reporting falsely about it.


https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2018-12/klimawandel-umgang-konsumverhalten-regeln-einwegplastik-veganismus
"More pressure, more bans - since this summer, climate change is no longer a threat, it is reality! We finally need more executive crackdown in our everyday lives!"

The article uses the notion that the 2018 summer had "proven" climate change to be real once and for all as a peg for the following call for an authoritarian "eco-dictatorship", preferably on a global scale.

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http://www.taz.de/!167104/
"Climate change is here - will we get another 'proper' summer, with some rain and without nonstop heatwaves? Probably not, at least for the time being."

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https://www.zeit.de/wissen/umwelt/2018-10/ipcc-bericht-weltklimarat-klimawandel/seite-2
"[...] Do you (the political leaders) seriously refuse proper measures for climate protection after this drought-summer in Germany, which according to research* was no just weather but climate?"

* the research they are referring to comes from a far-left millenial Oxford professor who made her M.Sc. in physics and then made her Ph.D. in philosophy (!) at one of Germany's leading breeding grounds for leftist ideology, the Free University of Berlin. This women, who doesnt even hold a science Ph.D., now claims to have devised complex statistical models based on even more complex models of the global climate which allow her quantifiy the degree with which certain weather events can be attributed to anthropogenic climate change. sounds like sorcery, doesnt it? anyway, even the dubious method from a dubious researcher that they are referring to only gives a probability (iirc it was 45%, it's now behind a paywall) that the extraordinary temperatures and dryness of the German 2018 summer were caused by manmade climate change - which the article omits to make a more dramatic point.

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those are just three examples which I found with a quick google search. could probably find at least a dozen more if I invested more time into it, but this should suffice for now.

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q.e.d.

these articles, of which I will link some examples below, take singular events like a hot summer or humid air (and subsequently heavy snowfall) in january as proof for climate change, or the seriousness/progress of climate change, even though any decently educated person should know that one or two events cant "prove" or "disprove" a trend.

I dont deny that there is a trend of increasing global temperatures, but you just cant deduce it from a hot summer or a precipitation-heavy winter. so in those cases, which are numerous if you actually look out for them, the liberal media is mistaking weather for climate, either out of incompetence or to help their cause. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy this presents, considering how the same disciples of the church of climate change are always ready to jump on anyone who's doing the same thing, mixing up weather and climate, to argue against climate change.





https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2018-12/klimawandel-umgang-konsumverhalten-regeln-einwegplastik-veganismus
"More pressure, more bans - since this summer, climate change is no longer a threat, it is reality! We finally need more executive crackdown in our everyday lives!"

The article uses the notion that the 2018 summer had "proven" climate change to be real once and for all as a peg for the following call for an authoritarian "eco-dictatorship", preferably on a global scale.

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http://www.taz.de/!167104/
"Climate change is here - will we get another 'proper' summer, with some rain and without nonstop heatwaves? Probably not, at least for the time being."

---

https://www.zeit.de/wissen/umwelt/2018-10/ipcc-bericht-weltklimarat-klimawandel/seite-2
"[...] Do you (the political leaders) seriously refuse proper measures for climate protection after this drought-summer in Germany, which according to research* was no just weather but climate?"

* the research they are referring to comes from a far-left millenial Oxford professor who made her M.Sc. in physics and then made her Ph.D. in philosophy (!) at one of Germany's leading breeding grounds for leftist ideology, the Free University of Berlin. This women, who doesnt even hold a science Ph.D., now claims to have devised complex statistical models based on even more complex models of the global climate which allow her quantifiy the degree with which certain weather events can be attributed to anthropogenic climate change. sounds like sorcery, doesnt it? anyway, even the dubious method from a dubious researcher that they are referring to only gives a probability (iirc it was 45%, it's now behind a paywall) that the extraordinary temperatures and dryness of the German 2018 summer were caused by manmade climate change - which the article omits to make a more dramatic point.

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those are just three examples which I found with a quick google search. could probably find at least a dozen more if I invested more time into it, but this should suffice for now.


it is rather ironic that you speak about a 'church' and 'cult' of climate change when you just went full kellyanne, misrepresenting, sensationalising, and discrediting those articles in order to defend your initial suggestion, that they are as bad as trump's retarded 'cold weather means there is no global warming' logic.
meanwhile in reality it's an undeniable truth that it already HAS a massive impact on us. the increased occurence of severe weather events is a statistically proven fact. they not only endanger the lives of people, but also our wealth. the only 'church' in this conversation is that of you climate change appeasers who lack the farsight to realise that only acting now can save us from even more severe consequences in the future, and that we are the fortunate minority of this planet's population that can afford the expensive adaption efforts.

and even though you might lack the nuance to realise this is also not a black and white issue of alarmists vs deniers, i'm with you and many critics concerning some of our 'energy transition' policies - not so much on the 'clean coal' narrative, or that renewable energy shouldn't be subsidised like we did for decades with fossil fuel, but more on the practical realities and implications of buying even 'dirtier' energy - and in particular our over-hasty abandoning of nuclear energy, which is probably my biggest gripe.
so (eastern) europe and buying our neighbours' dirty energy are valid points, china and india are not. not only because they DO make efforts despite having a significantly lower standard of living, but also because their way of producing power has literally no relevance for our market.
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