they never poll the middle class. or they get some people who tell them what they want to hear so they can report the ‘results’ they want. people here of all different political views have mentioned they got tax cuts - doubt any of us got asked our opinion in one of these polls

i’d love a bigger cut of course, corporations have enough money hoarded lmao. but that would involve stopping increases in govt spending which we never do, much less cutting spending lmao

This post was edited by excellence on Mar 7 2020 09:07am

Try to read this, i know it's hard for you, but please, just try again:

Us is at the bottom of the list when it's about "healthcare access.

The US isn't ready for COVID-19 because Americans have terrible healthcare access.

reeep and GL

Selectively covering a fact and repeating it benefits the rich and corporations becomes a half truth given enough time. The average person who hears or reads headlines 'the tax cuts have benefited the rich and corporations' 100 times through inductive reasoning will come to the conclusion that it doesn't benefit anyone else.

Just like if the headlines today were 'the corona virus has most negatively impacted the rich and corporations and has led to reduced CO2 emissions' (an objective truth) and after some time you'll have neck beards cheering for the virus. The way you choose to present a fact, even if it's mostly true drives perception. The perception that was being sold here is it benefits the rich and corps only which is dishonest and programs people to have a negative attitude towards them.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Mar 7 2020 09:24am

Health insurance amoung others have already announced that anything COVID related is absolutely free, both treatment and testing. Its way cheaper for them in the long run to get this out of the way.

This only happens to lazy thinkers, which is why you see it this way.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 7 2020 02:02pm

Lawl.

So when people disagree with the popular media talking point, it's because they're smart. When they agree, it's because they're being brainwashed.

Seems a little convenient, no?



Half the country doesn't think Trump did anything wrong in the Ukraine scandal and he thinks fact-based media outlets presenting information on the tax cuts can warp the opinions of those people. Kind of hilarious.

This is a point I've pondered. The economy increases haven't really changed the lives of many desperate people who voted for Trump, so will the "Keep America Great" shtick really work?

This post was edited by IceMage on Mar 7 2020 02:18pm

The people in charge of collecting and reporting this data, the IRS, have provided a report that pretty clearly shows most people benefited. I'm curious on what are you basing your 'analysis' that economic increases haven't benefit the people voting for Trump?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Mar 7 2020 02:25pm

Pretty big difference between some statistics going up and people really feeling their lives have changed.

Trump is great at bullshitting, so maybe he can convince people they're doing better than they actually are. But Trump won based on the fantasy that the American economy could go back to the good ol' days of living a comfortable middle class life without a college degree or specialized training. The stock market rising hasn't reversed the trends of globalization and automation.

Cool. Politicians promise the moon and only partially deliver or sometimes not at all. Trump is no different. Maybe some simple people really thought Trump will bring all the manufacturing jobs back or whatever but literally no human can make that happen.

I like to look at data. There are measurable things like the unemployment rate, stock market, 401k roi, etc that we can measure and say he has delivered on some economic benefits.

Trump won suburbia by a margin of 5%. Suburbia has 401k's and they pay taxes. Them getting higher returns and having to fork less in taxes has absolutely benefited many people who are his base.

I just find it hilarious how the Trump critics hold him to some god-status in his ability to deliver on things he's promised as if he is some god emperor who with a swing of his hand can make things happen.

isn't it funny? when confronted trump's broken promises and lack of political achievements, his cultists acknowledge he's just a politician, and all politicians make promises they can't keep - but when it comes to his political incompetence, justifying his inability to fill crucial positions, lead a functioning administration, conduct the most basic diplomatic tasks like a halfway sane person, the excuse is always 'well, he's just not your standard politician, he's a business man who gets things done' (lol) - convenient how that works...