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Feb 18 2019 02:04pm
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Yes i think the media being insanely biased and immoral activists that prop up big government while fraudulently pretending to be objective and impartial while spreading their propaganda to the masses is a bigger problem than trump ranting about them on twitter.

At no point in time did i suggest trump isn't more inclined to attack 'fake news' in response to them attacking and smearing him.
In this thread i corrected the implication that criticizing the press is condemning the free press.

Having a different opinion that you does not make me a shill.
Thats a fundamental flaw in how you view the world. Its ok if people have different opinions and preferences.
People aren't evil shills for disagreeing with you.


lmao

as you violate that alleged philosophy of yours over and over and over and over again
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Yes i think the media being insanely biased and immoral activists that prop up big government while fraudulently pretending to be objective and impartial while spreading their propaganda to the masses is a bigger problem than trump ranting about them on twitter.

At no point in time did i suggest trump isn't more inclined to attack 'fake news' in response to them attacking and smearing him.
In this thread i corrected the implication that criticizing the press is condemning the free press.

Having a different opinion that you does not make me a shill.
Thats a fundamental flaw in how you view the world. Its ok if people have different opinions and preferences.
People aren't evil shills for disagreeing with you.


i already inb4'd that pivot. you're not a shill for disagreeing with ME (if you were able to read you'd realise that i'm ALSO critical of the massive corporate establishment bias in msm), you're a shill because you come out EXCLUSIVELY on TRUMP'S side on this - which is NOT the "good and true" one (as you described it), it's the "pro censorship of criticism while being highly hypocritical on the truth part" one...
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Quote (fender @ Feb 18 2019 03:10pm)
i already inb4'd that pivot. you're not a shill for disagreeing with ME (if you were able to read you'd realise that i'm ALSO critical of the massive corporate establishment bias in msm), you're a shill because you come out EXCLUSIVELY on TRUMP'S side on this - which is NOT the "good and true" one (as you described it), it's the "pro censorship of criticism while being highly hypocritical on the truth part" one...


Why do you constantly capitalize random words in your sentences. I'm assuming this is for effect, but it doesn't really do much.

Curious.
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i already inb4'd that pivot. you're not a shill for disagreeing with ME (if you were able to read you'd realise that i'm ALSO critical of the massive corporate establishment bias in msm), you're a shill because you come out EXCLUSIVELY on TRUMP'S side on this - which is NOT the "good and true" one (as you described it), it's the "pro censorship of criticism while being highly hypocritical on the truth part" one...


I know we are on a gaming forum, but "inb4"ing isn't actually a valid refutation.

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as you violate that alleged philosophy of yours over and over and over and over again


I dont demonize people for merely disagreeing with me or declare that everyone who disagrees is a shill or hack.
I insult and criticize people who falsely attack my character instead of addressing my arguments.
I'm not going to sit by and idly watch scumbags attack my character over and over again.
I've had enough of that.

There is an important distinction there you are avoiding.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Feb 18 2019 02:46pm
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you're a shill because you come out EXCLUSIVELY on TRUMP'S side on this - which is NOT the "good and true" one (as you described it), it's the "pro censorship of criticism while being highly hypocritical on the truth part" one...

Agreeing with someone on one issue doesnt make someone a shill.
I know you 'inb4'd' the fact that i dont agree with him on everything and never said that i did, but thats also a relevant point.

Agreeing that the media is often really shitty and recognizing that criticizing the media isn't condemning the free press is not fully agreeing with everything trump says and its certainly not "pro censorship of criticism"
nonsensical claim.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Feb 18 2019 03:03pm
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you're a shill because you come out EXCLUSIVELY on TRUMP'S side on this - which is NOT the "good and true" one (as you described it), it's the "pro censorship of criticism while being highly hypocritical on the truth part" one...


Don Lemon of CNN, live on air said white males are not people.

No pushback by his co-panelist for blatant racism.
No reprecusions by the network towards him for this racist segment.
No condemnation from the other far-left narrative peddling shit-networks as MSNBC etc.

With this FACT being said, what "pro censorship" can you even have in mind, jackass thats uninformed on current events?


opposite of Trumps - is the openly racist identity-politics side, which among everything else, made Kambala Harris 1)be criticized by a racist/leftist mob on twitter - for having a WHITE HUSBAND, 2)mentally fucked her into taking a "u so black, why u married a white man?" question seriously on a black radio station, instead of outing the ones asking the question as racists that they are.

thats whats opposite of trump, out in the open
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Feb 18 2019 03:06pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 18 Feb 2019 21:48)
Agreeing with someone on one issue doesnt make someone a shill.
I know you 'inb4'd' the fact that i dont agree with him on everything and never said that i did, but thats also a relevant point.

Agreeing that the media is often really shitty and recognizing that criticizing the media isn't condemning the free press is not fully agreeing with everything trump says and its certainly not "pro censorship of criticism"
nonsensical claim.


you really don't see it, do you? you're not merely 'agreeing' with the reasonable and objective part of the criticism of mainstream media, you EXCLUSIVELY come out in support of trump's one-sided, hypocritical, and clearly motivated by self-interest narrative.

it's exactly my point that you're NOT saying merely saying 'i support criticising the media for certain things' whenever the issue comes up, but usually go full trump shill. the only times you ever pretend to see the matter a little more nuanced are your half-assed backpedals when you're being called out - as demonstrated by the last couple of pages in this thread...

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you really don't see it, do you? you're not merely 'agreeing' with the reasonable and objective part of the criticism of mainstream media, you EXCLUSIVELY come out in support of trump's one-sided, hypocritical, and clearly motivated by self-interest narrative.

it's exactly my point that you're NOT saying merely saying 'i support criticising the media for certain things' whenever the issue comes up, but usually go full trump shill. the only times you ever pretend to see the matter a little more nuanced are your half-assed backpedals when you're being called out - as demonstrated by the last couple of pages in this thread...


where's proof of you seeing nuance, rat?

what's the last #FakeNews scandal that you ever condemned, with posts backing that up?
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