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Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 18 2019 09:36am)
Who initiated the attacks here?
which ones have more validity?

I dont go around smearing people when they make an argument i don't like.
I have no problem accurately taking shots at people and accurately describing the contents of their posts when they demonize me and attack my character for disagreeing with them.


For someone that claims "I have a deep commitment to intellectual pursuit and honesty" you sure lack self awareness about your posts during the Trump years

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The orange buffoon, supported by e-trashes, is beating his own performance with last tweets.
I meant i though he was already at the top, but seems he can make it even better !


http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/



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Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 18 2019 11:32am)
that must've really upset you
then again it's been 2 years with not one critcism of trumppassing through your mind onto a post on here so the fanatical devotion that drives you to rush to the defense of your cult leader doesn't really surprise anyone


I've been very critical of his trade wars, tariffs, stupid comments on trade deficits, etc.

Criticizing leftists and correcting falsehoods that are posted =/= having a fanatical devotion to trump

I will readily agree that he is very flawed and far from an ideal libertarian president.
Not thinking he is the worst ever and speaking out when criticism of him is wildly wrong makes one 'part of the cult' in TDS world.

Accusing me of having a fanatical devotion to trump when I pointed out the idiocy of your picture is shit.

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For someone that claims "I have a deep commitment to intellectual pursuit and honesty" you sure lack self awareness about your posts during the Trump years


I am well aware of my posting history.
I often argue with leftists. I have openly stated that I disagree with the left more than trump and for good reason.
Sometimes its when their criticism of trump is wrong. in many cases where they are wrongly siding against or demonizing a libertarian issue because trump happened to support it that day or the leftist MSM activists told them to be outraged about it, or because they are TDS patients or marxist scum.

I am more than open to valid criticism of trump.
Conflating criticism of the disgraceful MSM with condemning the free press is not one of those valid criticisms.
He is continuing a number of terrible Bush and Obama era policies. He supports increased spending on a number of things. Hes bad on trade. Some of the people he had appointed and surrounded himself are shit, like sessions, christie, giuliani and bolton. etc.

Yet sometimes he does something good(like advocating withdrawal from a war, criticizing MSM and the deep state, or supports capitalism and school choice) and gets demonized by most of the political world for it, and by pard leftists.
I think someone needs to stand up and argue for what is good and true, regardless of which politician supports it. and regardless of if TDS losers are going to call them a shill when they dont like it.

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Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 18 2019 10:15am)
I've been very critical of his trade wars, tariffs, stupid comments on trade deficits, etc.

Criticizing leftists and correcting falsehoods that are posted =/= having a fanatical devotion to trump

I will readily agree that he is very flawed and far from an ideal libertarian president.
Not thinking he is the worst ever and speaking out when criticism of him is wildly wrong makes one 'part of the cult' in TDS world.

Accusing me of having a fanatical devotion to trump when I pointed out the idiocy of your picture is shit.



I am well aware of my posting history.
I often argue with leftists. I have openly stated that I disagree with the left more than trump and for good reason.
Sometimes its when their criticism of trump is wrong. in many cases where they are wrongly siding against or demonizing a libertarian issue because trump happened to support it that day or the leftist MSM activists told them to be outraged about it, or because they are TDS patients or marxist scum.

I am more than open to valid criticism of trump.
Conflating criticism of the disgraceful MSM with condemning the free press is not one of those valid criticisms.
He is continuing a number of terrible Bush and Obama era policies. He supports increased spending on a number of things. Hes bad on trade. Some of the people he had appointed and surrounded himself are shit, like sessions, christie, giuliani and bolton. etc.

Yet sometimes he does something good(like advocating withdrawal from a war, criticizing MSM and the deep state, or supporting school choice) and gets demonized by most of the political world for it, and by pard leftists.
I think someone needs to stand up and argue for what is good and true, regardless of which politician supports it. and regardless of if TDS losers are going to call them a shill when they dont like it.


If you guys lost the the meme/insultingly emotional/blindly anti-left parts of these posts yall wouldn't get called trumpers trumpists shills cult etc etc

you guys are emotional and defensive and attack all the time and it makes all the substance of your opinions (which some of this post has) get lost

then you guys get flustered for getting called out for your shit (which you deserve) and you start to embrace it and get even worse

this obviously gets to many on the right in ways it doesn't get to us outside of trump circles and conservative passions so why cause your own troubles? why discredit your own posts and get yourself lumped in with people you don't want to be lumped in with by posting in the same nonsense way that they do?

this isn't just you btw this applies to probably 3-4ish people here in the exact same boat

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Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 18 2019 12:15pm)
I've been very critical of his trade wars, tariffs, stupid comments on trade deficits, etc.

Criticizing leftists and correcting falsehoods that are posted =/= having a fanatical devotion to trump

I will readily agree that he is very flawed and far from an ideal libertarian president.
Not thinking he is the worst ever and speaking out when criticism of him is wildly wrong makes one 'part of the cult' in TDS world.

Accusing me of having a fanatical devotion to trump when I pointed out the idiocy of your picture is shit.



I am well aware of my posting history.
I often argue with leftists. I have openly stated that I disagree with the left more than trump and for good reason.
Sometimes its when their criticism of trump is wrong. in many cases where they are wrongly siding against or demonizing a libertarian issue because trump happened to support it that day or the leftist MSM activists told them to be outraged about it, or because they are TDS patients or marxist scum.

I am more than open to valid criticism of trump.
Conflating criticism of the disgraceful MSM with condemning the free press is not one of those valid criticisms.
He is continuing a number of terrible Bush and Obama era policies. He supports increased spending on a number of things. Hes bad on trade. Some of the people he had appointed and surrounded himself are shit, like sessions, christie, giuliani and bolton. etc.

Yet sometimes he does something good(like advocating withdrawal from a war, criticizing MSM and the deep state, or supports capitalism and school choice) and gets demonized by most of the political world for it, and by pard leftists.
I think someone needs to stand up and argue for what is good and true, regardless of which politician supports it. and regardless of if TDS losers are going to call them a shill when they dont like it.


where do you stand on trump siding with putin against all of his own intelligence agencies in matters of national security
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Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 18 2019 12:25pm)
If you guys lost the the meme/insultingly emotional/blindly anti-left parts of these posts yall wouldn't get called trumpers trumpists shills cult etc etc


Calling me a trump shill just exposes your own anti-intellectual and shitty behavior that is widespread on the left these days. Its not an accurate swipe at me or a fault that I have.
YOU are to blame for your actions and how you respond to my posts.
YOU are also wrong when you falsely smear people.

I hate the left and its support of big government and that is not going to change.
hating government and the left is not shilling for trump. period.


I'm not going to stop posting the truth and my beliefs to avoid getting called names by leftist scum when they don't want to consider the validity of any opposing arguments or positions.
If that leads to confrontation and continued shitty responses so be it.
What i am going to do is continue to call it out when it happens and explain the truth of the situations.
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