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Feb 18 2019 10:23am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 18 2019 09:22am)
"I disagree with some of his use of the term fake news" and 'i dont like the news outlets he prefers and think THEY are fake news' =/= criticizing wapo activist frauds is condemning the free press and anyone who says it has gone full helical/shill

I have a deep commitment to intellectual pursuit and honesty
You are a professional victim and liar, like your scumbag friend chief freon running low. People correct you all day and you still call people racists and alt-right and claim they mock massacres so you can actually shill for bigger government and smear right wing figures.


Accusing people of bullshit when you dont like that they disagree with you politically/socially and claiming 'irony' when i call you and fender out on being anti-intellectual =/= accuracy and truth


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jefferson lived at a time when the readership of newspapers was too small to justify even attempting fake news. he probably couldnt imagine a time in which large parts of the media are blatantly biased (in either direction!) and pushing a specific ideological agenda.

when it comes to trump and the fake news accusation: he is overutilizing and weaponizing the fake news accusation, but this does not, in turn, prove that fake news dont exist at all. they are very real, examples are constantly posted in this thread and elsewhere.


so at the end of the day, trump is both right and wrong. right in that fake news media is a widespread phenomenom, is a serious problem for our democracy and is mostly biased against him. (they outnumber fox news by a ratio of 3:1 or smth.)
he is wrong in the sense that there are ample of valid criticisms and lines of attack against him, and that not every critical report about him or his administration is fabricated fake news, or of malicious intent.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 18 2019 10:25am
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jefferson lived at a time when the readership of newspapers was too small to justify even attempting fake news. he probably couldnt imagine a time in which large parts of the media are blatantly biased (in either direction!) and pushing a specific ideological agenda.

when it comes to trump and the fake news accusation: he is overutilizing and weaponizing the fake news accusation, but this does not, in turn, prove that fake news dont exist at all. they are very real, examples are constantly posted in this thread and elsewhere.


so at the end of the day, trump is both right and wrong. right in that fake news media is a widespread phenomenom, is a serious problem for our democracy and is mostly biased against him. (they outnumber fox news by a ratio of 3:1 or smth.)
he is wrong in the sense that there are ample of valid criticisms and lines of attack against him, and that not every critical report about him or his administration is fabricated fake news or of malicious intent.


He posts fake news all day long

he isn't against fake news he has psychological deficiencies and supports lies that are positive about him from his right wing sources

this was never an honorable pursuit this was a troubled President that can't stand negative criticism to a degree we rarely get to see for this length of time as they are typically mocked out of the conversation

He has been selling negative news as the enemy of the people and for people like you to go oh uh he is part right and part wrong are not any better in the end than the straight up maga memers
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Feb 18 2019 10:30am
Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 18 2019 11:23am)

haHAA post a gif when called out for being scummy. try not to think too much.

I've had enough of losers calling me a trump shill for making valid points that disagree with their TDS NPC narrative.
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Feb 18 2019 10:31am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 18 2019 09:30am)
haHAA post a gif when called out for being scummy. try not to think too much.

I've had enough of losers calling me a trump shill for making valid points that disagree with their TDS NPC narrative.


cries about smearing in nearly every post

insults more than 98% of the people here

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Feb 18 2019 10:32am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 18 2019 11:07am)
Criticizing bad actors and fake news like the Clinton News Network and The Washington Compost =/= condemning a free press

“As for what is not true you will always find abundance in the newspapers.” – Thomas Jefferson

“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I deplore with you the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed, and the malignity, the vulgarity, and mendacious spirit of those who write for them.” – Thomas Jefferson

“Indeed, my skepticism as to everything I see in a newspaper, makes me indifferent whether I ever see one.” – Thomas Jefferson

“From forty years’ experience of the wretched guess-work of the newspapers of what is not done in open daylight, and of their falsehood even as to that, I rarely think them worth reading, and almost never worth notice.” – Thomas Jefferson


that must've really upset you
then again it's been 2 years with not one critcism of trump passing through your mind onto a post on here so the fanatical devotion that drives you to rush to the defense of your cult leader doesn't really surprise anyone

This post was edited by duffman316 on Feb 18 2019 10:32am
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Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 18 2019 11:31am)
cries about smearing in nearly every post

insults more than 98% of the people here


Who initiated the attacks here?
which ones have more validity?

I dont go around smearing people when they make an argument i don't like.
I have no problem accurately taking shots at people and accurately describing the contents of their posts when they demonize me and attack my character for disagreeing with them.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 18 2019 11:23am)
jefferson lived at a time when the readership of newspapers was too small to justify even attempting fake news. he probably couldnt imagine a time in which large parts of the media are blatantly biased (in either direction!) and pushing a specific ideological agenda.

when it comes to trump and the fake news accusation: he is overutilizing and weaponizing the fake news accusation, but this does not, in turn, prove that fake news dont exist at all. they are very real, examples are constantly posted in this thread and elsewhere.


so at the end of the day, trump is both right and wrong. right in that fake news media is a widespread phenomenom, is a serious problem for our democracy and is mostly biased against him. (they outnumber fox news by a ratio of 3:1 or smth.)
he is wrong in the sense that there are ample of valid criticisms and lines of attack against him, and that not every critical report about him or his administration is fabricated fake news, or of malicious intent.


do you think a conman with a history of lies, scams and fraud cares? or do you think the people that support him despite his history of lies, scams and fraud cares? it's why the came up with TDS to avoid having to acknowledge they've elected a man who'll probably end up in the guiness book of world records for the amount of lies he's told as president - at which point that book too will become fake news

This post was edited by duffman316 on Feb 18 2019 10:36am
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