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Aug 25 2023 06:01pm
Quote (CPK001 @ 25 Aug 2023 23:06)
I keep it up because it's true. How can the belief be no longer true or useful? The way I see it, the human body still works the same way today as it did 2,000 years ago. Jesus died and rose again still remains true, that can't somehow become untrue.

I can get proven wrong by Science, it doesn't affect my beliefs. I can find out that person who I thought I knew wasn't who they claimed to be. That won't affect my beliefs about Jesus.

Alright so you want to prove me wrong? Can you first start by explaining how sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry is a good thing? What about slandering and insults towards one another? How has any of that changed over the last 2,000 years?

What I find hard is convincing someone that they are a sinner and in need of forgiveness. You are the perfect example of this.

Brainwashing? How is it brainwashing when I did the research and investigations and became convinced of the evidence? Do you want an example of brainwashing? Look at those north koreans who think this Winnie the Pooh is their god and would gladly sacrifice themselves for their leader. He tells them to jump off a bridge and they will do it. That is pure brainwashing. Ofcourse since they are brainwashed they can't see that.

There is no such thing for Christians as Jesus is the one who died for us. I'm one of the chosen ones of God who will join my creator in Heaven.


So here is the thing about your post:

1) When you say you can be proven wrong by science, you have been. You know it, but you want to ignore it. To say it doesn’t affect your beliefs is like saying I can prove to you the Earth is round, but you will still “ believe” it is flat. That’s not how arguments work. If you have been proven wrong, you ARE WRONG.

2) That whole immorality thing and 2000 years thing is totally irrelevant to anything. Not believing in the bible doesn’t equal agreeing with or accepting that it’s ok to do bad things. Total straw man argument, with no merit.

3) Sinner and forgiveness? Even by you Christian standards do you have any right to judge that. If you had read your bubble you would realise it, but I guess, like most things, we only care about the parts we like, right? Even in the Bible?
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Aug 25 2023 06:03pm
Quote (AyeCaramba @ Aug 25 2023 05:01pm)
So here is the thing about your post:

1) When you say you can be proven wrong by science, you have been. You know it, but you want to ignore it. To say it doesn’t affect your beliefs is like saying I can prove to you the Earth is round, but you will still “ believe” it is flat. That’s not how arguments work. If you have been proven wrong, you ARE WRONG.

2) That whole immorality thing and 2000 years thing is totally irrelevant to anything. Not believing in the bible doesn’t equal agreeing with or accepting that it’s ok to do bad things. Total straw man argument, with no merit.

3) Sinner and forgiveness? Even by you Christian standards do you have any right to judge that. If you had read your bubble you would realise it, but I guess, like most things, we only care about the parts we like, right? Even in the Bible?


i would like to see this part
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Aug 25 2023 06:04pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 26 Aug 2023 00:03)
i would like to see this part


Roughly how old is the Earth according to the bible?
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Aug 25 2023 06:15pm
Quote (AyeCaramba @ Aug 25 2023 05:04pm)
Roughly how old is the Earth according to the bible?


old age dating techniques rely on assumptions. starting conditions are assumed.
its that pesky science stuff like 'observation

then there is other puzzles
helium in zircons
atmospheric c-14
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Aug 25 2023 06:19pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 26 Aug 2023 00:15)
old age dating techniques rely on assumptions. starting conditions are assumed.
its that pesky science stuff like 'observation

then there is other puzzles
helium in zircons
atmospheric c-14


This is where you know science is saying that the Earth is roughly 4bn years old, and the bible says roughly 6000 years or so, am I right?
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Aug 25 2023 06:27pm
Quote (AyeCaramba @ Aug 25 2023 05:19pm)
This is where you know science is saying that the Earth is roughly 4bn years old, and the bible says roughly 6000 years or so, am I right?


sorry the science doesnt say that. proper science. observable testable repeatable
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Aug 25 2023 06:30pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 26 Aug 2023 00:27)
sorry the science doesnt say that. proper science. observable testable repeatable


Which part of science disagrees with the Earth being roughly 4.4bn years old?
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Aug 25 2023 06:32pm
Quote (AyeCaramba @ Aug 25 2023 05:30pm)
Which part of science disagrees with the Earth being roughly 4.4bn years old?


the observable part. starting conditions are assumed. this should be obvious
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Aug 25 2023 06:36pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 26 Aug 2023 00:32)
the observable part. starting conditions are assumed. this should be obvious


That is totally meaningless.

Show me some science.

Quote me some science

Hint at some science

Stop pretending you actually know some science

This post was edited by AyeCaramba on Aug 25 2023 06:37pm
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Quote (AyeCaramba @ Aug 25 2023 05:19pm)
This is where you know science is saying that the Earth is roughly 4bn years old, and the bible says roughly 6000 years or so, am I right?


The Bible NEVER states an age of the Earth. This is a common myth parroted by atheists and anti-theists

Prove me wrong - please provide the Bible passage that gives an age of the Earth
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