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Jan 24 2019 02:40pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 24 2019 08:34pm)
i put it in quotes for a reason, it was a made up term to describe what i mean. i could have put "racism towards whites" with no quotes, but that would have stopped you from making such a powerful point in your third line, riveting stuff really.

there isn't "racism" and nothing else. there is problematic racism and there is non-problematic racism on a spectrum of course, the only counter view is the full blown SJW "find anything that qualifies as racism and destroy all guilty equally".

since there is no difference what would be the societal punishment? make sure it's consistent, because there is no difference, like you said.

you're of course being ridiculous, and quite snowflakey. your logic leads people to mob mentality where they try to destroy others based on perceived racist behavior, likely many cases that weren't damaging to anyone. your mentality says that spitting in a black mans face and calling someone a honky on twitter are the same. its regressive and reductionist. closer to that of the tribal human of 100k years ago than a modern man. nuance, context, and analysis are the only smart way to approach racism. not trying to score points based on perceived slights in the past.



we both know WHY you're saying it, an attempt to shame. u can act coy, but it wont change my mind. it's a card people pull all too often. the followup "it's so hard to be white" stuff is just reaching really really hard. its great to be white, fucking awesome in fact. i love my white privilege and wouldn't trade it for any other race's place in society if you paid me anything under 6 figures to do it. i'd turn down being black for $99,999 without even thinking about it.



I'm saying it because he is a racist and I dont like racists and also because he likes to argue on the validity of "i am such a good person", if he actually said anything worthwhile I could argue that. I never said its so hard to be white....also im not white so....there's that. Such a weird mindset to have.
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Jan 24 2019 02:41pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jan 24 2019 01:26pm)
Calling a Beo a racist is not weaponized anything, it's just the truth.


You're making the Chris mistake

I enjoy it. Do it as much as you want

Because when I'm fired up and posting about police brutality against the poor (all inclusive) or about the drug war (all inclusive) or about all the other topics affecting the poverty stricken when poor white people are included in every thing I'm passionate about I like to pause for moments to think about how the people that get triggered by my anti trump posts call me racist

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Jan 24 2019 02:42pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jan 24 2019 02:38pm)
Im not looking to destroy anyone, just calling a spade a spade. . .


that's racist, check your privilege.

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You can argue degrees of severity all you want but calling someone a racist name and doing something else racist, both are racist


yes, severiry and absolution aren't mutually exclusive things. if you're a bit of a jerk but im a complete asshole but of us can be described by being mean.

but with this you're making my point. the only reason to point out something is racist in an absolute sense it to try and shame someone with hte label. unless you're silly enough to think that "racism requires power" viewpoint is anything but a meme in PARD. maybe that's your issue.

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Also what exactly is your point, if i spit in a persons face and he's a different color from me it's because he's a given color? That's pretty faulty logic.


that's not within a country mile of my point.


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I'm saying it because he is a racist and I dont like racists and also because he likes to argue on the validity of "i am such a good person", if he actually said anything worthwhile I could argue that. I never said its so hard to be white....also im not white so....there's that. Such a weird mindset to have.


so you're weaponizing it.

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Jan 24 2019 02:44pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 24 2019 08:42pm)
that's racist, check your privilege.



yes, severiry and absolution aren't mutually exclusive things. if you're a bit of a jerk but im a complete asshole but of us can be described by being mean.

but with this you're making my point. the only reason to point out something is racist in an absolute sense it to try and shame someone with hte label. unless you're silly enough to think that "racism requires power" viewpoint is anything but a meme in PARD. maybe that's your issue.



that's not within a country mile of my point.


What are you even talking about, calling a spade a spade, or a black person black is not racist. It's objective reality, thinking someones value comes from said skin color is racist.

If that wasn't your point, then don't use the example.

I honestly don't even understand what your point is.
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Jan 24 2019 02:45pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jan 24 2019 08:41pm)
You're making the Chris mistake

I enjoy it. Do it as much as you want

Because when I'm fired up and posting about police brutality against the poor (all inclusive) or about the drug war (all inclusive) or about all the other topics affecting the poverty stricken when poor white people are included in every thing I'm passionate about I like to pause for moments to think about how the people that get triggered by my anti trump posts call me racist


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Jan 24 2019 02:46pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jan 24 2019 02:44pm)
What are you even talking about, calling a spade a spade, or a black person black is not racist. It's objective reality, thinking someones value comes from said skin color is racist.

If that wasn't your point, then don't use the example.

I honestly don't even understand what your point is.


"spade" is a slang term for a black person. and the saying means calling out "black behavior" as much as it's original tie to card games. u should learn your racist history, clearly its a subject you're passionate about.

I provided an example of problematic racism "spitting in a guys face" and non problematic racism "calling someone a honky on twitter", you seemed to have needed an example. you then spun into the "racism is racism is racism" topic that is entirely a strawman.

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Jan 24 2019 02:51pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 24 2019 08:46pm)
"spade" is a slang term for a black person. and the saying means calling out "black behavior" as much as it's original tie to card games. u should learn your racist history, clearly its a subject you're passionate about.

I provided an example of problematic racism "spitting in a guys face" and non problematic racism "calling someone a honky on twitter", you seemed to have needed an example. you then spun into the "racism is racism is racism" topic that is entirely a strawman.


So, I guess I am supposed to know every racist epithet and learn all about racist history lest me be racist or something. Thanks.

I didn't need an example of anything, you just decided to interject and go on about nothing while assuming a whole lot of things.

I am going to go about my day now. I don't have time to break down every little thing you say and then have it spin into 5 more things for no reason what so ever.

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Jan 24 2019 02:55pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jan 24 2019 02:51pm)
So, I guess I am supposed to know every racist epithet and learn all about racist history lest me be racist or something. Thanks.

I didn't need an example of anything, you just decided to interject and go on about nothing while assuming a whole lot of things.

I am going to go about my day now. I don't have time to break down every little thing you say and then have it spin into 5 more things for no reason what so ever.


the spade/racist thing was a joke, try to lighten up.

you didn't "want" an example, but were confused, and therefore "needed" one. the example, it should be said, clearly wasn't worded well enough for it to work, but that's on me so dont feel too bad. ill take the blame.
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Jan 24 2019 02:57pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 24 2019 08:55pm)
the spade/racist thing was a joke, try to lighten up.

you didn't "want" an example, but were confused, and therefore "needed" one. the example, it should be said, clearly wasn't worded well enough for it to work, but that's on me so dont feel too bad. ill take the blame.


Its ok im not crying, I just can't infer tone from text. Cookies for all.
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Jan 24 2019 03:08pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jan 24 2019 02:57pm)
Its ok im not crying, I just can't infer tone from text. Cookies for all.


if you assume my posts are wry sarcasm you'll be about 70% right, like how i assume all posters are white and am about 70% right.
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