I really love the "that's not presidential" talk.

the reason we talk about "great presidents", FDR, Lincoln, Washington, etc is because most of them were ineffectual assholes or meek soybois.

Andrew Jackson was a war criminal. Teddy Rooseevelt was dirtbag. LBJ shitting with the door open. False flags that led to wars. a continued pursuit of expanding the presidential powers. Carters inability to do anything. Clinton.........

"presidential" basically means 3-5 out of all of them.

I'd say the peaceful non violent guy that opposes cages for non violent citizens of all types and is against capital punishment and comes from survivors of genocide himself probably would not burn anyone

This post was edited by Beowulf on Jan 24 2019 02:18pm

I'd say being a racist isn't very peaceful, nor is thinking you can categorize the effectiveness of someones argument because of their skin color, sex or political view. The only reason people like you are "peaceful" is because you'd get destroyed if you tried anything else. You can't do anything in real life so you bring your hateful spew onto an internet forum safe from consequences. It's ok though reality always wins in the end and your sort of thinking is contrary to what actual good people do.

i dont mean to break up the beo bashing, really i do love reading it, but can we just not with the weaponized "racist" label.

SJW's try to use it as a bludgeon to shame people, doing the same in return doesn't help the PC culture dissipate.

most racism isn't a big deal, against all groups, whites are no different. pointing out hypocrisy of liberals is fine, but playing the victim to shame isn't. that's snowflake behavior.

i mean 99% of racism against whites is getting called a cracker, not getting affirmative action treatment, etc.

until the day comes where you'd rather be black than white "white racism" still isn't by-and-large problematic.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 24 2019 02:24pm

I wouldn't mistake people being peaceful with being unable to be effective in non peaceful engagements

Not everyone that is peaceful started out that way

When you promote legislation that rewards or punishes people based on their skin color, you are racist.
When you try to classify someone into a given color so you can dismiss what they think or view their opinions as not valid because of it, you are racist.
There is no "white racism" or "brown racism" or "black racism", there are only pieces of crap that care what color you are and seek to base their opinions on it, those people are called racists.

Calling a Beo a racist is not weaponized anything, it's just the truth.

This post was edited by LA-Leviathan on Jan 24 2019 02:29pm

i put it in quotes for a reason, it was a made up term to describe what i mean. i could have put "racism towards whites" with no quotes, but that would have stopped you from making such a powerful point in your third line, riveting stuff really.

there isn't "racism" and nothing else. there is problematic racism and there is non-problematic racism on a spectrum of course, the only counter view is the full blown SJW "find anything that qualifies as racism and destroy all guilty equally".

since there is no difference what would be the societal punishment? make sure it's consistent, because there is no difference, like you said.

you're of course being ridiculous, and quite snowflakey. your logic leads people to mob mentality where they try to destroy others based on perceived racist behavior, likely many cases that weren't damaging to anyone. your mentality says that spitting in a black mans face and calling someone a honky on twitter are the same. its regressive and reductionist. closer to that of the tribal human of 100k years ago than a modern man. nuance, context, and analysis are the only smart way to approach racism. not trying to score points based on perceived slights in the past.



we both know WHY you're saying it, an attempt to shame. u can act coy, but it wont change my mind. it's a card people pull all too often. the followup "it's so hard to be white" stuff is just reaching really really hard. its great to be white, fucking awesome in fact. i love my white privilege and wouldn't trade it for any other race's place in society if you paid me anything under 6 figures to do it. i'd turn down being black for $99,999 without even thinking about it.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 24 2019 02:36pm

Acting "presidential" simply means acting(especially in public) in a dignified and respectable manner that both sides can agree on. It really has little to do with policy choices.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 24 2019 02:35pm

yeah i get that, but what most people don't understand is that Trump is on camera (read: visible to the public) and on transcripts 10x more than Reagan and 1000x more than Washington.

what we think of as how a president acts in public is a sham, PR they got away with for centuries. a big fucking massive lie. presidents are shitbags, most people are, the exceptions prove the rule.

trump is worse, but not be the order of magnitude people imply.

Im not looking to destroy anyone, just calling a spade a spade. You can argue degrees of severity all you want but calling someone a racist name and doing something else racist, both are racist.

Also what exactly is your point, if i spit in a persons face and he's a different color from me it's because he's a given color? That's pretty faulty logic. Im not an SJW, I'm not looking for the world to find Beo and ruin his life, his crappy world view will do that all on its own but he's still a racist.