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Quote (Thor123422 @ 10 Feb 2019 21:40)
You are taking the most extreme part of the movement and thinking that's the whole of the movement. That's why you don't see yourself as doing exactly what the critics of every wave have been doing.

Civil rights: Blacks want more rights than whites


so, where's my "white history month"? where's my discount on the GPA when applying for college?

and the calls for "always believe the woman in cases of he said she said" are not "the most extreme part of the movement", really? did you completely miss the Kavanaugh hearings where virtually the entire activist base was arguing this way (and large parts of the Democrats in Congress joined them)? this viewpoint is well within the mainstream of contemporary feminism.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 10 2019 03:15pm)
Literally exactly what they said about 2nd wave feminism while it was happening.

We'll look back in 30 or more years and most people will just say that 3rd wave was necessary because holding sexual predators to account was common sense.

Similarly, if you actually take time to understand intersectionality it's also pretty much common sense. Some people always take these things too far, but in the end those voices die out and we look back on the movement as a whole as necessary and justified.... because it is.


I disagree. I think in 30 years, the mass majority of us will be saying "We told you so", while the select few that supported it will be quietly trying to back away from the subject. Kind of like the Covington story.

This is nothing like what feminism was.

We have the internet today, and we can research so much of the information that the feminists are claiming are causing havoc and can see that it is being grossly misrepresented/misinterpreted.

Ironically, you have sometimes these people bringing their own destruction. Creating more issues.

For example, I'm sure there were many people that openly welcomed the millions of refugees in Europe without thinking of the potential consequences of the sudden introduction of two clashing culture. Now the very own lgbt community gets shunned and sometimes attacked by the very group that some of which showed it massive support and welcoming arms for.


Wait sexual predators? You mean, the people we have always been against? Contrary to what you may think, being labeled a rapist was never deemed as a positive thing. I'm fully for holding people accountable, and it's a shame people have sometimes gotten away with it. That's a flaw within the criminal justice system, the difficulties of having crimes reported as well and the nature of the crime that sometimes relies on a "he said/she said" if actions aren't immediately taken (and no, I'm not blaming the victim as I can see how it would be a very traumatic experience and embarassing). I don't think anybody's ever been against rapists receiving justice. However, feminism is much more than just that subject.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 10 2019 04:40pm)
You are taking the most extreme part of the movement and thinking that's the whole of the movement. That's why you don't see yourself as doing exactly what the critics of every wave have been doing.

Civil rights: Blacks want more rights than whites

Gay rights: Gays want special privileges

etc. etc.



to be fair - my perception of this is from the eyes of someone who just left Uni and that is what I have exposed to. The above are actually issues there (atleast on a GA campus)
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 10 2019 03:49pm)
so, where's my "white history month"? where's my discount on the GPA when applying for college?

and the calls for "always believe the woman in cases of he said she said" are not "the most extreme part of the movement", really? did you completely miss the Kavanaugh hearings where virtually the entire activist base was arguing this way (and large parts of the Democrats in Congress joined them)? this viewpoint is well within the mainstream of contemporary feminism.


You werent oppressed or historically disenfranchised
Do you really need to be told this?
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Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 10 2019 08:25pm)
You werent oppressed or historically disenfranchised
Do you really need to be told this?


Black awareness month doesn't elevate the black community, it only makes them ungrateful and reverts them to the mindset of an oppressor - which is ironic. You think they would try not to be an oppressor after being the victim of it themselves. But hey, its their choice if they want to throw away their future.
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Quote (joncomgree @ Feb 10 2019 07:19pm)
to be fair - my perception of this is from the eyes of someone who just left Uni and that is what I have exposed to. The above are actually issues there (atleast on a GA campus)


I didn't encounter that at all at my university.

In fact, we had a demonstration at my school by Black Lives Matter supporters and people literally lined up by the dozens and shouted things like "nigger lover" and were threatened with hanging. It was all over the local newspapers the next day. The protestors just wore masks and held signs, and when I was there the protesters were taking the verbal abuse with no response because it was supposed to be a silent demonstration.

So the only extremism I've seen at university was from the other side of the aisle.

Still, I understand that I live in a pretty conservative area and that most people don't believe real racists are still alive by the millions in rural areas.




I don't deny there really are liberals like being described out there, but it's just interesting that when literal Nazis march it's "not representative", but when a similar population and less extreme minority on the left say we should give women the benefit of the doubt it's "the mainstream left".

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I didn't encounter that at all at my university.

In fact, we had a demonstration at my school by Black Lives Matter supporters and people literally lined up by the dozens and shouted things like "nigger lover" and were threatened with hanging. It was all over the local newspapers the next day. The protestors just wore masks and held signs, and when I was there the protesters were taking the verbal abuse with no response because it was supposed to be a silent demonstration.

So the only extremism I've seen at university was from the other side of the aisle.

Still, I understand that I live in a pretty conservative area and that most people don't believe real racists are still alive by the millions in rural areas.




I don't deny there really are liberals like being described out there, but it's just interesting that when literal Nazis march it's "not representative", but when a similar population and less extreme minority on the left say we should give women the benefit of the doubt it's "the mainstream left".


where/what state did you go to school in? when they removed the black studies major (20 graduates in 5 years was the reason) there was a hootin and a hollerin and fussin allll about it

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no1 shouted "nigger" at any of the protests, as i was there trying to convince people about the actual numbers

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Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 11 2019 12:25pm)
You werent oppressed or historically disenfranchised
Do you really need to be told this?

The irish were though, pretty badly.
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