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Nah, that was Trump who signed the farm bailout




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Just depends how you define it.

You tend to define anything you dont like to be as left as possible without actually learning about it.

You like equality for sexes so clearly it cant be femenism because feminism is evil leftists that you dont like


it's rather easy:

first and second wave feminism: justified and changed society for the better
third and fourth wave feminism: bad for society, does more harm than good by creating a ton of division and new injustices.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 10 2019 02:12pm)
it's rather easy:

first and second wave feminism: justified and changed society for the better
third and fourth wave feminism: bad for society, does more harm than good by creating a ton of division and new injustices.


Literally exactly what they said about 2nd wave feminism while it was happening.

We'll look back in 30 or more years and most people will just say that 3rd wave was necessary because holding sexual predators to account was common sense.

Similarly, if you actually take time to understand intersectionality it's also pretty much common sense. Some people always take these things too far, but in the end those voices die out and we look back on the movement as a whole as necessary and justified.... because it is.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 10 2019 10:04pm)
Why actually try to understand when you can just parrot memes


you are not informed on this issue, mainstream feminism is a supremacist movement
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Feb 10 2019 02:15pm)
you are not informed on this issue, mainstream feminism is a supremacist movement


"mainstream" feminism? No.

I don't deny there are some crazies, but to say its mainstream just shows you don't know what the mainstream actually includes.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 10 Feb 2019 21:15)
Literally exactly what they said about 2nd wave feminism while it was happening.

We'll look back in 30 or more years and most people will just say that 3rd wave was necessary because holding sexual predators to account was common sense.

Similarly, if you actually take time to understand intersectionality it's also pretty much common sense. Some people always take these things too far, but in the end those voices die out and we look back on the movement as a whole as necessary and justified.... because it is.


this is an ideological view, you implicitly assume that becoming ever more liberal on every issue does automatically equal progress. in a similar mold, the success of such movements is not guaranteed. you assume that this flavor of feminism will prevail, because movements like this one always prevail. i guess thats the point where I disagree, I believe that a movement which goes too far and which is making the lives of too many people worse instead of better will fail in the end. the fourth wave feminist's viewpoint of "we always believe the woman, carefully assessing the credibility of the accusations is not necessary" as well as "screw 'in dubio pro reo'" are just two examples of going too far in the sense mentioned above.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 10 2019 02:37pm
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props to the feminist movement for giving me easy access to free sex while telling them that its "empowering"
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can someone get this woman a hat? I was just out in a snowmobile suit
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 10 2019 02:35pm)
this is an ideological view, you implicitly assume that becoming ever more liberal on every issue does automatically equal progress. in a similar mold, the success of such movements is not guaranteed. you assume that this flavor of feminism will prevail, because movements like this one always prevail. i guess thats the point where I disagree, I believe that a movement which goes too far and which is making the lives of too many people worse instead of better will fail in the end. the fourth wave feminist's viewpoint of "we always believe the woman, carefully assessing the credibility of the accusations is not necessary" as well as "screw 'in dubio pro reo'" are just two examples of going too far in the sense mentioned above.


You are taking the most extreme part of the movement and thinking that's the whole of the movement. That's why you don't see yourself as doing exactly what the critics of every wave have been doing.

Civil rights: Blacks want more rights than whites

Gay rights: Gays want special privileges

etc. etc.

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Quote (Goomshill @ 10 Feb 2019 21:37)
https://i.imgur.com/8zuGs6J.png

can someone get this woman a hat? I was just out in a snowmobile suit


that's a great image to launch her campaign. really strong (albeit obviously intentional) symbolism.

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/10/18136170/amy-klobuchar-running-president-announcement

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Her candidacy will likely be focused on trying to make the case for pragmatism. The question is whether her vision, or the rising progressive wing’s vision, is where Democratic Party voters want to go.


I think I know the answer...
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