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Feb 16 2021 01:58am
Quote (ReturnFormer @ Feb 15 2021 09:00pm)
yeah, you should definitely reread it, because it doesnt say what you think it does at all...

"Conclusion: Long-term use of respiratory protection did not result in any clinically relevant physiologic
burden
for health care personnel, although many subjective symptoms were reported. N95 compliance
was fairly high"

just the opposite, it says there was no real harm, just some whining.

nevermind that it looked at n95's, not surgical masks, and the elevated co2 levels were when paired with a surgical mask over the n95 - which my wife's hospital sent out an email months ago warning against. (and isnt fauci's recommendation, he said to double up surgical masks, not n95's. )

the dumb is strong with you...


listen adhom. what does it say in the results????? right above "conclusion"

"just the opposite, it says there was no real harm, just some whining. "
3 phd made the study one should be alarmed when they say another is just having "subjective problems". Seems you are also prone to the same. Are you really gona tell a person who says they have a headache that its only in their imagination?

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listen adhom. what does it say in the results????? right above "conclusion"

"just the opposite, it says there was no real harm, just some whining. "
3 phd made the study one should be alarmed when they say another is just having "subjective problems". Seems you are also prone to the same. Are you really gona tell a person who says they have a headache that its only in their imagination?


So give them an aspirin. Headaches are annoying but far from concerning
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Feb 16 2021 07:13am
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So give them an aspirin. Headaches are annoying but far from concerning


a headache can result from a lack of oxygen. that you would be so dismissal of it says volumes.
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back when i was irreligious I had a atheist friend. Somehow I went on a knowledge quest and to my surprise I found Jesus. It was kinda of sad that I went christian on him. We used to debate and argue at times. He was smart enough to know his arguments were not holding up but he would never progress past that. He passed away almost a year ago now. The memory causes much sorrow.

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Feb 16 2021 08:39am
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 16 2021 02:58am)
listen adhom. what does it say in the results????? right above "conclusion"

"just the opposite, it says there was no real harm, just some whining. "
3 phd made the study one should be alarmed when they say another is just having "subjective problems". Seems you are also prone to the same. Are you really gona tell a person who says they have a headache that its only in their imagination?


yes, the results were that some people had some discomfort, but nothing serious. hence the conclusion that theyre not harmful. it takes a special type of stupid to reinterpret something to support your position when it literally says the exact opposite. no one says that masks are not without some discomfort. but that doesnt mean that they shouldnt be worn or that theyre ineffective.

(and again, this study was with n95's, the surgical masks / cloth coverings recommended for the average person will have even less discomfort.





Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 16 2021 08:13am)
a headache can result from a lack of oxygen. that you would be so dismissal of it says volumes.


the very study you linked which says it is dismissive of it, hence why they conclude that there is no physiological harm in wearing a mask.

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Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 16 2021 07:13am)
a headache can result from a lack of oxygen. that you would be so dismissal of it says volumes.


Big note on *can*.

We have a ton of evidence that it doesn't. You can literally just put a pulse-ox on your finger and go about your business wearing the mask. And this has been done, and people go about heavy work in respirators without issue, so we know for a fact that as long as you don't have some significant lung disorder you will be fine to wear a respirator.
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Quote (ReturnFormer @ Feb 16 2021 06:39am)
yes, the results were that some people had some discomfort, but nothing serious. hence the conclusion that theyre not harmful. it takes a special type of stupid to reinterpret something to support your position when it literally says the exact opposite. no one says that masks are not without some discomfort. but that doesnt mean that they shouldnt be worn or that theyre ineffective.

(and again, this study was with n95's, the surgical masks / cloth coverings recommended for the average person will have even less discomfort.







the very study you linked which says it is dismissive of it, hence why they conclude that there is no physiological harm in wearing a mask.


so you choose to be cherry picking avoiding the real issue.
your challenge
" if masks were actually harmful it would have been discovered before now. find me one source that predates covid that says masks are harmful. protip: you cant because they arent. "
challenge meet
a paper from 2013
page 1 at the top of the page. right before the area you cherry picked.
excerpt:
Results:Most nurses (90%, n¼9) tolerated wearing respiratory protection for two 12-hour shifts.CO2levels increased significantly compared with baseline measures, especially when comparing anN95 with a surgical mask to only an N95....
It was right in front of your face and you wouldnt address it, twice?!

BTW two 12 hour shifts is nothing compared to what people are now being forced to do.



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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 16 2021 06:52am)
Big note on *can*.

We have a ton of evidence that it doesn't. You can literally just put a pulse-ox on your finger and go about your business wearing the mask. And this has been done, and people go about heavy work in respirators without issue, so we know for a fact that as long as you don't have some significant lung disorder you will be fine to wear a respirator.


yes "can" then you make chit up you are always making chit up. but never back anything up. the mark of a subjective thinker.

headaches are warning signs. people like you want to keep mask smashed to their faces any way because your gona decide its in their imagination. I have see people go to doctors with back pain and doctors telling them its in their imagination..............wtf???? then mri comes back n the doctor looks a fool. People get a headache and people like you are going to tell them its in their imagination fukn mask zombies
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Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 16 2021 06:21pm)
so you choose to be cherry picking avoiding the real issue.
your challenge
" if masks were actually harmful it would have been discovered before now. find me one source that predates covid that says masks are harmful. protip: you cant because they arent. "
challenge meet
a paper from 2013
page 1 at the top of the page. right before the area you cherry picked.
excerpt:
Results:Most nurses (90%, n¼9) tolerated wearing respiratory protection for two 12-hour shifts.CO2levels increased significantly compared with baseline measures, especially when comparing anN95 with a surgical mask to only an N95....
It was right in front of your face and you wouldnt address it, twice?!

BTW two 12 hour shifts is nothing compared to what people are now being forced to do.


"A paper from 2013" is not a citation dumbass. Increased CO2 levels doesn't mean harmful dumbass.

Now give real source or go away, because literally nobody believes your lies.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 16 2021 04:33pm)
"A paper from 2013" is not a citation dumbass. Increased CO2 levels doesn't mean harmful dumbass.

Now give real source or go away, because literally nobody believes your lies.


i was asked for a "source" preceding the scamdemic its been delivered and i reject any notion that your qualified to pass judgement on the "source" I provided.

"Increased CO2 levels doesn't mean harmful dumbass."
no one has ever said "hey i have a idea lets decrease o2 and increase co2 as a viable treatment.....well until the mask zombies showed up.

your a mask zombie because you were told to put on a mask, you never questioned it, you just slapped it right on there. now your a karen being granted that authority when you submitted in fear to the people that lie and steal from you.

be careful who you causally call a liar, mask zombie.
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