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Oct 16 2020 06:49am
Quote (fender @ 16 Oct 2020 08:46)
https://i.imgur.com/g5Uy88O.png

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lel


"Garbage Fire" is the best definition of this "story".
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#272
Oct 16 2020 06:55am
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Nobody cares about privacy here anymore than they would on Trump's tax returns, Clinton's emails, or scandalous news about any politician. What matters to us is what the information alleges. The crime / non-crime of an irrelevant shop owner is completely beneath public notice.

If we learned that Trump was secretly selling out the country to the Chinese, we'd be calling for his head, whether or not the recording was obtained illegally. And for good reason, how we come by information doesn't matter to us when evaluating matters of public concern.


Unless it's Manning or Snowden, amirite?
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Oct 16 2020 07:11am
damn, gonna buy some reynolds stock after reading this thread

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#274
Oct 16 2020 07:18am
Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 15 2020 11:06pm)
Do you really believe that Hillary Clinton, who has read more classified material than you or I ever will, did not know that "C" meant confidential?


So Hillary allegedly lied about her knowledge of classification markings?

Maybe she did know what those markings meant, and was pretending to be ignorant in order to help her story. That's not necessarily a lie the FBI can prosecute if they didn't find real evidence of her knowledge.

Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 16 2020 07:05am)
Nobody cares about privacy here anymore than they would on Trump's tax returns, Clinton's emails, or scandalous news about any politician. What matters to us is what the information alleges. The crime / non-crime of an irrelevant shop owner is completely beneath public notice.

If we learned that Trump was secretly selling out the country to the Chinese, we'd be calling for his head, whether or not the recording was obtained illegally. And for good reason, how we come by information doesn't matter to us when evaluating matters of public concern.


Hunter Biden's not a public official. And how information gets into the public square is of course relevant, especially if it's the president's lawyer who was the one passing it to a news organization. Or, if a foreign government were to hack the Trump Org and release a bunch of information, that would be a relevant part of the story.
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Oct 16 2020 07:43am
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Oct 16 2020 07:43am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 16 2020 09:18am)

Hunter Biden's not a public official. And how information gets into the public square is of course relevant, especially if it's the president's lawyer who was the one passing it to a news organization. Or, if a foreign government were to hack the Trump Org and release a bunch of information, that would be a relevant part of the story.


I don't think anyone is interested in Hunter Biden, they're interested in whether this implicates Joe Biden.

It is relevant only insofar as it requires validation. If the emails are genuine that's really the end of it.

Quote (Santara @ Oct 16 2020 08:55am)
Unless it's Manning or Snowden, amirite?


If the shop-owner did something illegal, he should have his day in court, as Manning did. But as with Manning, no one is going to pretend that the cat is still in the bag, once information is released we are going to act on it.
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#277
Oct 16 2020 07:44am
Quote (Santara @ 16 Oct 2020 08:55)
Unless it's Manning or Snowden, amirite?

a plurality (at least) of people i’d wager are in favor of pardoning Snowden (leaks helped to expose government spying of citizens). Manning is a different case (part of the leaks put US forces at risk) but she had her sentence commuted already anyway
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Oct 16 2020 07:48am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 16 2020 09:18am)
So Hillary allegedly lied about her knowledge of classification markings?

Maybe she did know what those markings meant, and was pretending to be ignorant in order to help her story. That's not necessarily a lie the FBI can prosecute if they didn't find real evidence of her knowledge.


This is about as plausible as Flynn's "I don't remember a conversation from a week or two ago". Perhaps you understand why Barr is so reluctant to press charges.
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Oct 16 2020 07:56am
Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 16 2020 09:43am)
If the shop-owner did something illegal, he should have his day in court, as Manning did. But as with Manning, no one is going to pretend that the cat is still in the bag, once information is released we are going to act on it.


But nobody actually acted, on Collateral Murder, except to punish the person who exposed a crime.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 16 2020 07:56am
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#280
Oct 16 2020 09:11am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Oct 16 2020 03:43pm)
LOL #nothingburger
BEBEST as usual
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/feds-examining-if-alleged-hunter-biden-emails-are-linked-foreign-n1243620?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_nw&fbclid=IwAR3Qjcf9YXkbkbqeTHBdT9whL0PpctYASYRooyGoFYlm3bDN8ReTx7sXBu4


*cough* corrupt *cough* crack smoking *cough* crook

Imagine these kind of people saying orange man bad lol

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