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Jul 17 2014 03:23am
Quote (wofire @ Jul 16 2014 05:05pm)
... then it's possible the same God to create a bunch of bones and stars to show off.







I agree most religious people drive people away from God..






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Jul 17 2014 01:45pm
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lol my grammar was horrible in that sentence since I was typing from an old k9 phone and didn't really feel like correcting it. But I stand by the statement.

As a Christian, 1st I believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven, therefore anyone teaching Jesus + something else or something else all together is not leading someone closer to God. Now I know their will be a large uproar about me saying this, but that is what I believe. I think that Christians not living a Christian life is a huge reason people don't like Christians. Even Ghandi wrote I like your Jesus, but I don't like your Christians.
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Jul 17 2014 02:20pm
haven't read all 28 pages. so sorry if this was already asked:

would there be any change in your believe, if we find alien life? / intelligent alien life? (if this makes a difference to you)
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Jul 17 2014 03:06pm
Quote (MettIgel @ Jul 17 2014 03:20pm)
haven't read all 28 pages. so sorry if this was already ask

would there be any change in your believe, if we find alien life? / intelligent alien life? (if this makes a difference to you)


I don't think we have specifically, although someone did ask about ET life. The God of Earth will be the same God as the God of the Universe/galaxy or whatever else is bigger out there. So even if their are aliens, I think the God of the universe stays the same. So now I did bring up the fact that I do beleive in angels and demons and I do believe they can manifest into physical forms. I won't try to support it at all, but I think some things can be explained by angels/demons which in a way are kind of ET but not how you think of them. They are technically not of this world, but that's another discussion all together. I think that Jesus was still a man who lived 2000 years ago who claimed he was God. He still showed many signs and miracles that showed that. He physically died and physically came back to life and the only way to spend eternity with God is trusting in him. I don't think the existence of ET's affect that.
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Jul 18 2014 10:02am
Quote (wofire @ Jul 17 2014 10:06pm)
I don't think we have specifically, although someone did ask about ET life. The God of Earth will be the same God as the God of the Universe/galaxy or whatever else is bigger out there. So even if their are aliens, I think the God of the universe stays the same. So now I did bring up the fact that I do beleive in angels and demons and I do believe they can manifest into physical forms. I won't try to support it at all, but I think some things can be explained by angels/demons which in a way are kind of ET but not how you think of them. They are technically not of this world, but that's another discussion all together. I think that Jesus was still a man who lived 2000 years ago who claimed he was God. He still showed many signs and miracles that showed that. He physically died and physically came back to life and the only way to spend eternity with God is trusting in him. I don't think the existence of ET's affect that.


thank you for answering. i disagree very strongly, but i like the fact that you challenge and question your faith. If you want to know, i am an agnostic-atheist, which means: i'm not sure if we will ever know if there's a god, but i don't see any evidence of it, so i don't actively believe in one. new evidence may change that.

i have actually a few more questions, because the answer was a little different, than i expected. But was informative on another level.

Let's just imagine, there IS alien life. I believe it is very likely, because of the unimaginable size of our Universe.
But i also think we will never meet them, because 1) we are too far apart from each other and 2) there will be thousands or even millions of years of difference in technological progress.

In your opinion, if there are ET's, has jesus also visited them? or will jesus get there eventually?
Is it possible, that we weren't the first species jesus went to?
Will those ET's have the same story? The same bible?
Also, the same events? for example, some christian holidays are dated by astronomical events.

If most of these answeres were kinda 'no'. Why would you think god created life on those planets?
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Jul 18 2014 10:18am
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thank you for answering. i disagree very strongly, but i like the fact that you challenge and question your faith. If you want to know, i am an agnostic-atheist, which means: i'm not sure if we will ever know if there's a god, but i don't see any evidence of it, so i don't actively believe in one. new evidence may change that.

i have actually a few more questions, because the answer was a little different, than i expected. But was informative on another level.

Let's just imagine, there IS alien life. I believe it is very likely, because of the unimaginable size of our Universe.
But i also think we will never meet them, because 1) we are too far apart from each other and 2) there will be thousands or even millions of years of difference in technological/moral progress

In your opinion, if there are ET's, has jesus also visited them? or will jesus get there eventually?
Is it possible, that we weren't the first species jesus went to?
Will those ET's have the same story? The same bible?
Also, the same events? for example, some christian holidays are dated by astronomical events.

If most of these answeres were kinda 'no'. Why would you think god created life on those planets?


sorry to intrude, but your statements are extremely interesting.
we can say that Jesus is the Governor of our planet.
there are thousands or millions of evolved spirits like Jesus.

I bolded includes a small detail that makes all the difference.
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Jul 20 2014 12:57pm
Quote (MettIgel @ Jul 18 2014 11:02am)
thank you for answering. i disagree very strongly, but i like the fact that you challenge and question your faith. If you want to know, i am an agnostic-atheist, which means: i'm not sure if we will ever know if there's a god, but i don't see any evidence of it, so i don't actively believe in one. new evidence may change that.

i have actually a few more questions, because the answer was a little different, than i expected. But was informative on another level.

Let's just imagine, there IS alien life. I believe it is very likely, because of the unimaginable size of our Universe.
But i also think we will never meet them, because 1) we are too far apart from each other and 2) there will be thousands or even millions of years of difference in technological progress.

In your opinion, if there are ET's, has jesus also visited them? or will jesus get there eventually?
Is it possible, that we weren't the first species jesus went to?
Will those ET's have the same story? The same bible?
Also, the same events? for example, some christian holidays are dated by astronomical events.

If most of these answeres were kinda 'no'. Why would you think god created life on those planets?


I actually lean towards there isn't intelligent life on other planets. I think the vastness in space pales in comparison to the odds of a rock the size of Earth supporting life.
To answer your other questions is answering a straw man question....so I will say i don't know.

I disagree with El Shadday's Comment because claiming that means there are thousands or millions incarnates of God each needing to die, which I don't believe.

Something you might of missed from the first post, which is ok, but I am only trying to answer questions from a biblical perspective. I am not gonna try to argue that point over another.

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Jul 20 2014 05:32pm
two questions..

What happens after we die according to the bible? is there a hell and heaven?

And my second questions is, does it say in the bible how God got created? How did he come ?
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Jul 20 2014 06:59pm
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I actually lean towards there isn't intelligent life on other planets. I think the vastness in space pales in comparison to the odds of a rock the size of Earth supporting life.
To answer your other questions is answering a straw man question....so I will say i don't know.

I disagree with El Shadday's Comment because claiming that means there are thousands or millions incarnates of God each needing to die, which I don't believe.

Something you might of missed from the first post, which is ok, but I am only trying to answer questions from a biblical perspective. I am not gonna try to argue that point over another.


I mean there are millions of evolved spirits like Jesus in the universe.
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Jul 20 2014 10:14pm
Quote (iBecameLegend @ Jul 20 2014 06:32pm)
two questions..

What happens after we die according to the bible? is there a hell and heaven?

And my second questions is, does it say in the bible how God got created? How did he come ?


Yes the Bible does talk about an actual heaven and an actual hell. Those who are righteous go to heaven, those who don't go to hell. Since all have sinned, only those who accept the free gift of Jesus's sacrifice are found righteous. Therefore it is biblical to say that if someone doesn't accept Jesus then they are going to hell. Yes. I know it sounds harsh, but it's not like we are being told that we have to do something. God offered a free gift, and as people we get to choose.

God is the beginning and the end. He created time therefore he can't be defined by it. He created the physical universe, therefore he can't be created by something in it. No more can "gods" be created by people. So no one created God. It's a hard concept to think about but I would rather have a God I don't understand then one I do.
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