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Apr 26 2011 12:57pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 26 Apr 2011 13:51)
Now answer the second part about how I have never seen a penis in a bathroom besides my own.


The core of my first argument is that because access is so easy for children and is GOING to happen some time at a very young age the fact that they might happen to see it in a bathroom is a non-issue.  Unless you are also advocating for laws restricting all sex exposure for children unisex bathrooms are a non issue.  Your argument is closer to eliminating knifes from kitchens because they will teach violence but still allowing violence on television to go unabated.


What is your question or statement? You're talking in circles, and none of that made any relevant sense to the issue of taking and making logical steps to protecting children from sexual predators. Sex education is irrelevant, this isn't (only) about seeing or not seeing a penis or vagina (some ultra-conservative people will cite that as a reason; I am not).

They already have "family" bathrooms, and these are fine, because you don't send your kid in alone, and usually it's just a single room anyway, with a locking door.

Beyond this, I think the point is pretty simple, you're not going to be able to convince all (or probably a majority of) people to all share a common bathroom. All stories so far about current unisex bathrooms indicate they are almost completely unused. What does that tell you? Why aren't people using them in college dorms, if they're such a great idea?
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Apr 26 2011 12:58pm
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Apr 26 2011 12:57pm)
You're an idiot if you honestly are trying to rebuttle my question earlier.  How can you have a CLASS on abstinence?  There, i'll rephrase it for you, since you couldnt quite grasp the direction of my question.


See:

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And

Quote (Aisu_aS @ Apr 26 2011 12:55pm)
Much like the "Just Say No" Policy in DARE. Where you are only taught about the dangers and never receive any actual  education.


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Apr 26 2011 12:58pm
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ 26 Apr 2011 19:57)
You're an idiot if you honestly are trying to rebuttle my question earlier.  How can you have a CLASS on abstinence?  There, i'll rephrase it for you, since you couldnt quite grasp the direction of my question.


Link in my previous post.
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Apr 26 2011 12:59pm
Quote (Aisu_aS @ 26 Apr 2011 13:55)
Much like the "Just Say No" Policy in DARE. Where you are only taught about the dangers and never receive any actual  education.


See bolded, seems like we need to fire all our teachers. They're all teaching and not providing any actual education.
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Apr 26 2011 01:00pm
Quote (njaguar @ Apr 26 2011 11:59am)
See bolded, seems like we need to fire all our teachers. They're all teaching and not providing any actual education.


this is actually starting to become true..
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Apr 26 2011 01:00pm
Quote (njaguar @ Apr 26 2011 12:57pm)
What is your question or statement? You're talking in circles, and none of that made any relevant sense to the issue of taking and making logical steps to protecting children from sexual predators. Sex education is irrelevant, this isn't (only) about seeing or not seeing a penis or vagina (some ultra-conservative people will cite that as a reason; I am not).

They already have "family" bathrooms, and these are fine, because you don't send your kid in alone, and usually it's just a single room anyway, with a locking door.

Beyond this, I think the point is pretty simple, you're not going to be able to convince all (or probably a majority of) people to all share a common bathroom. All stories so far about current unisex bathrooms indicate they are almost completely unused. What does that tell you? Why aren't people using them in college dorms, if they're such a great idea?


It has been stated many times that we are not advocating for them to be installed simply that there wouldn't be a problem with them being installed.

My question is why don't you advocate for stronger protection for children against all sexual contents when that is one of the reasons for not wanting unisex bathrooms.

and do you have any actual info on expected abuse of the unisex policy that couldn't be covered by simply making ground to ceiling stalls?
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Apr 26 2011 01:01pm
Quote (njaguar @ 26 Apr 2011 19:59)
See bolded, seems like we need to fire all our teachers. They're all teaching and not providing any actual education.


For the bazzilionth time:


WHY IS THERE AN INCREASED RISK TO THE CHILD IN A UNISEX BATHROOM IN CONTRAST TO A GENDERSPECIFIC BATHROOM, WHEN THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN ACCOMPANIES THE CHILD INSIDE REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF RESTROOM?
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Apr 26 2011 01:02pm
Quote (Aisu_aS @ Apr 26 2011 06:58pm)
See:



And


In DARE, do they just tell you to not do drugs? Thats rhetorical ofcourse, they teach you what each specific drug does and the dangers of it, among other things.

You cant simply teach a abstinence class, for that you need to teach the opposite spectrum of abstinence, lol.

I think you're trying to say "its for the kids who couldnt get their permission slips signed", and if thats the case, than gotcha. If not, you're confusing the fuck out of me.
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Apr 26 2011 01:02pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 26 2011 02:55pm)
It simply has not happened.  I can happen to not see a penis without actively avoiding it :P


...don't worry , we'll accept your word that you have never seen another penis in a public bathroom .

Are you one of those people who is so afraid to accidently see another penis in the line of urinals that you stare at the ceiling and piss at your shoes and the floor ?
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Apr 26 2011 01:03pm
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...don't worry , we'll accept your word that you have never seen another penis in a public bathroom .

Are you one of those people who is so afraid to accidently see another penis in the line of urinals that you stare at the ceiling and piss at your shoes and the floor ?


more like one of the people who are shy so they wait for the stalls.
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