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Mar 9 2025 12:04pm
I am not going to argue about facts, we didnt fund any resistance group in Syria


This is quite strange, since you were striking exclusively at pro-government forces, not at Al-Qaeda.

Plus:

Israel ‘giving secret aid to Syrian rebels’/Al-Qaeda, report says


Israel has allegedly provided Syrian rebels with substantial funding and aid in order to maintain a buffer zone in the Golan Heights border area between the country and its war-torn neighbour, it has emerged.

The Israeli authorities have provided significant amounts of cash, food, fuel and medical supplies to Sunni rebels fighting against Bashar al-Assad’s government, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing "half a dozen rebels and three people familiar with Israel's thinking."

Source: The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-giving-secret-aid-syrian-rebels-bashar-al-assad-golah-heights-hezbollah-fursan-al-joulan-a7797151.html
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Mar 9 2025 12:29pm
I am not going to argue about facts, we didnt fund any resistance group in Syria


Because you have no argument and your assertions are self evidently false and absurd
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Mar 9 2025 12:39pm
This is bs, the terrorists were financed & armed by the USA & Israel to fight Assad. Terrorist uprisings could have been crushed immediately with US support of Assad, a bit irrelevant since those terrorists were created by the old regime too but yeah.

They supported megaterrorists on a false pretense of "Russia bad"


The initial anti-Assad protests in Syria in 2011 were organic, but then got quickly co-opted by a wide array of foreign actors who were all pursuing their very own agenda and didn't have the best interest of Syria in mind.

Just to be clear: the CIA funding of Syrian rebels long after the anti-Assad opposition was dominated by islamists, was a horrible mistake. But make no mistake: Russia was supporting the pro-Assad camp long before they sent boots on the ground in late 2015. Russia tried to tip the scales of the war in its preferred direction just as much as the US did. Erdogan and rich Saudis also did their thing. As did the Kurds and ISIS. And probably the Israelis.

I welcomed the Russian intervention in 2015 because it prevented an immediate genocide. My assumption back then was that the Assad regime would stabilize and gradually get the country under control again. The ease and swiftness with which they got steamrolled in December 2024 proves, however, that this notion was always a mirage and that Assad's rule had already been mortally wounded.

Time will tell whether we get a full-scale genocide now, or if the violence will get limited/reined in to at least some degree.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 9 2025 12:40pm
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Mar 9 2025 12:57pm
Because you have no argument and your assertions are self evidently false and absurd


No, because there is no point arguing about it, you dont have evidence for it you simply believe this is what happened.

I know for a fact we didnt fund any party since we funded that christians in the lebanese civil war.
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Mar 9 2025 12:59pm
The initial anti-Assad protests in Syria in 2011 were organic, but then got quickly co-opted by a wide array of foreign actors who were all pursuing their very own agenda and didn't have the best interest of Syria in mind.

Just to be clear: the CIA funding of Syrian rebels long after the anti-Assad opposition was dominated by islamists, was a horrible mistake. But make no mistake: Russia was supporting the pro-Assad camp long before they sent boots on the ground in late 2015. Russia tried to tip the scales of the war in its preferred direction just as much as the US did. Erdogan and rich Saudis also did their thing. As did the Kurds and ISIS. And probably the Israelis.

I welcomed the Russian intervention in 2015 because it prevented an immediate genocide. My assumption back then was that the Assad regime would stabilize and gradually get the country under control again. The ease and swiftness with which they got steamrolled in December 2024 proves, however, that this notion was always a mirage and that Assad's rule had already been mortally wounded.

Time will tell whether we get a full-scale genocide now, or if the violence will get limited/reined in to at least some degree.


Israel had no interest in Syria it was the quietest border we had.
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Mar 9 2025 01:04pm
This is quite strange, since you were striking exclusively at pro-government forces, not at Al-Qaeda.

Plus:

Israel ‘giving secret aid to Syrian rebels’/Al-Qaeda, report says

Israel has allegedly provided Syrian rebels with substantial funding and aid in order to maintain a buffer zone in the Golan Heights border area between the country and its war-torn neighbour, it has emerged.

The Israeli authorities have provided significant amounts of cash, food, fuel and medical supplies to Sunni rebels fighting against Bashar al-Assad’s government, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing "half a dozen rebels and three people familiar with Israel's thinking."

Source: The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-giving-secret-aid-syrian-rebels-bashar-al-assad-golah-heights-hezbollah-fursan-al-joulan-a7797151.html


Unverified complete fabrication

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Unverified complete fabrication


Try to refute with facts and evidence.

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The initial anti-Assad protests in Syria in 2011 were organic, but then got quickly co-opted by a wide array of foreign actors who were all pursuing their very own agenda and didn't have the best interest of Syria in mind.

Just to be clear: the CIA funding of Syrian rebels long after the anti-Assad opposition was dominated by islamists, was a horrible mistake. But make no mistake: Russia was supporting the pro-Assad camp long before they sent boots on the ground in late 2015. Russia tried to tip the scales of the war in its preferred direction just as much as the US did. Erdogan and rich Saudis also did their thing. As did the Kurds and ISIS. And probably the Israelis.

I welcomed the Russian intervention in 2015 because it prevented an immediate genocide. My assumption back then was that the Assad regime would stabilize and gradually get the country under control again. The ease and swiftness with which they got steamrolled in December 2024 proves, however, that this notion was always a mirage and that Assad's rule had already been mortally wounded.

Time will tell whether we get a full-scale genocide now, or if the violence will get limited/reined in to at least some degree.


America and Russia both influenced the war but I think its missing a lot of history to say Russia tried as much as the US did. Russia very pointedly did not provide Assad with the kind of proportional military aid it would take to crush the rebels during the long running civil war. The American intervention was initially aimed at destabilizing a Russian ally and dragging them into a proxy war, and Putin's infamous masterstroke was to simply employ jiu jitsu and purposefully aggravate this conflict and let it fester, because the result was the EU impaling themselves on their own refugee crisis. We went over this so many times in the past decade, how all Putin had to do was sit back and let Assad barrel bomb the rebels who turned into a hose of migrants spraying into the EU. If Putin's approach was initially noncommittal for other reasons and his hands-off strategy simply opportunistic, it was most definitely intentional after the migrant crisis started and he realized the potential to crack the EU.

What was reported was that in his last few weeks in office Biden really unleashed the military equipment to Al Qaeda. When those HTS forces steamrolled across the country a couple months ago, they were doing it equipped with all kinds of humvees and US weapons. And of course Biden took their branch of Al Qaeda off our terrorism list and "acknowledged talking to them" and "shared secret intelligence with them". Not openly admitting that we armed them, but lmao you can throw a stick in the air in syria and it will land on a salafist militant with a US provided gun
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Mar 9 2025 01:21pm
Israel had no interest in Syria


That's patently bullshit, though. Syria was a hub for arms supplies from Iran to Hezbollah. Syria under Assad Sr. was one of the major belligerents during the Yom-Kippur War and, unlike Egypt, refused any rapprochement with Israel. Syria also possessed the strongest air force of all Arab nations in the region and held a large arsenal of chemical weapons. And last but not least, Syria was the main opponent in the dispute over the Golan Heights and Israel always had a strong interest in fully annexing them during a moment of Syrian weakness or disarray.


Sorry man, but Israel had and still has a very strong geopolitical interest in Syria and the Assads. Yes, for quite some years during the past decade, keeping Assad in control was Israel's preferred outcome over a chaotic islamist takeover, but this doesn't mean that their feelings for Assad were friendly, nor that Israel wasn't ready to secure its own interests as soon as Assad falls. Which it evidently did.


At the end of the day, al-Sharaa doesn't give a fuck about a few Druze villages on the foothills of Golan, but he needs to bring the fertile and densely populated Alevite heartland around Latakia and Tartus under his control to consolidate his power. Likewise, a genocide against the Alevites doesn't really affect Israel's core interests. From my outsider perspective, peaceful coexistence between Israel and the new regime in Damascus should be no problem... at least for the time being.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 9 2025 01:21pm
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Mar 9 2025 01:49pm
Unverified complete fabrication


Chances are its true, and if it were true, you would have an immediate justification for it.
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