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Sep 14 2024 08:24am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 13 2024 05:24pm)
The Pentagon budget could probably be reduced by at least $100 billion per year without losing anything, simply by cutting down on bloat and waste.


I give it another 4-8 years before they start taking the axe to military budgets. We're not there, we will be there in the 2030s IMO.
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Sep 14 2024 06:12pm
sounds genuine. Rick Harrison shares his feelings at a recent Trump Rally.
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Sep 14 2024 11:22pm
Quote (WiziLiCe @ 12 Sep 2024 19:42)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPlhS22BG9k

Can someone argue in favor of Trump's economic plan?

I would've also like to see in the video a comparison between Trumps (pre covid) gov spending vs Kamala's (Biden cont) gov spending. Putting an end to wars seems like a way in that direction. Not that i'm under the impression it would balance the numbers. But i'd like to be persuaded that Trump's plan holds more water (regardless of the probability of his proposals passing).


Trump's plan is to boost economy by making more jobs/production in the US; creating less weight on the younger generation by allowing the older people to sustain their wealth to take care of themselves through their older years, then also reducing the strength of imports to supplement these changes and is slightly a gamble.

Kamala's plan is no sustainability and simply is a straight cut of loss profit.

Right at the start of the video it says that Trumps' tariff tax could pay for most of his cuts. I feel like if you were asking this question in good faith perhaps you forgot that?

Just based off of watching till 4:00~ish analysis.

Quote (Goomshill @ 12 Sep 2024 21:11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2X6jO439VQ

Donald Trump has announced a new policy initiative, removing income tax from overtime pay
Probably the most progressive tax proposal from either party in a generation


Yea this is pretty big.

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Sep 14 2024 11:24pm
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Trump's plan is to boost economy by making more jobs/production in the US; creating less weight on the younger generation by allowing the older people to sustain their wealth to take care of themselves through their older years, then also reducing the strength of imports to supplement these changes and is slightly a gamble.

Kamala's plan is no sustainability and simply is a straight cut of loss profit.

Right at the start of the video it says that Trumps' tariff tax could pay for most of his cuts. I feel like if you were asking this question in good faith perhaps you forgot that?

Just based off of watching till 4:00~ish analysis.


What happens when the goods you bought are now worth 20-30% in order to account for tariffs? I'd argue it hurts the American consumers who enjoyed those goods.
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Sep 15 2024 09:02am
They are eating the dogs

How much do we think Trumps campaign paid that woman to eat a cat in Ohio? Probably not much considering they are broke.

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Quote (WiziLiCe @ Sep 15 2024 05:34am)
What happens when the goods you bought are now worth 20-30% in order to account for tariffs? I'd argue it hurts the American consumers who enjoyed those goods.


What happens when Chinese electric vehicles cost 100% more in order to account for tariffs?
The answer: Nobody buys them. They aren't even sold at all. And it protects the US auto industry

There were about 6000 total Polestar 2's sold in the USA before the tariffs went into effect, costing $25000 for the base model. Now they cost $60,000 and I don't think its sold anymore. BYD's Seagull cost only $15000 before the tariffs, but only to the Chinese market, not exported overseas. The Biden administration isn't paying the federal governments bills with tariffs like our early founding father's administrations did, its just using tariffs as a way to ban foreign products without a formal ban, which the early Americans did more directly.
But meanwhile 654,888 Teslas were sold in the US in 2023 with a $45-52k price range for Model Ys, and now $76k for a model S



Peter Navarro was put in prison because he recognized a simple economic fact that every 'mainstream' economist has been trying to deny and avoid for decades now. The fact that if America became an isolated island nation with impenetrable Ur-Quan slave shields blocking all trade in and out, we would be able to sustain our own food, energy, housing, manufacturing, microchips, etc and Americans would be able to afford all these products on an unskilled worker's salary while raising a family. Something you cannot do in modern America with all the benefits of a system that believes """"free trade is a positive sum game""""
Whether we're taking in the world's indigent population who take our jobs and send half their wages back overseas to benefit a foreign family, or we're outsourcing our manufacturing and energy production, or completely neglecting tech and auto sectors- we're doing it to the expense of Americans, not to our benefit. Protectionism isn't the answer, its the basic requirement. Its like we're immolating ourselves in the hottest flames of a burning building and the neoliberal economists are explaining to us why fire extinguishers don't work and sprinklers are heresy. Trump being right isn't enough, he might be too late.
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Sep 15 2024 11:14am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 15 2024 08:09am)
What happens when Chinese electric vehicles cost 100% more in order to account for tariffs?
The answer: Nobody buys them. They aren't even sold at all. And it protects the US auto industry

There were about 6000 total Polestar 2's sold in the USA before the tariffs went into effect, costing $25000 for the base model. Now they cost $60,000 and I don't think its sold anymore. BYD's Seagull cost only $15000 before the tariffs, but only to the Chinese market, not exported overseas. The Biden administration isn't paying the federal governments bills with tariffs like our early founding father's administrations did, its just using tariffs as a way to ban foreign products without a formal ban, which the early Americans did more directly.
But meanwhile 654,888 Teslas were sold in the US in 2023 with a $45-52k price range for Model Ys, and now $76k for a model S



Peter Navarro was put in prison because he recognized a simple economic fact that every 'mainstream' economist has been trying to deny and avoid for decades now. The fact that if America became an isolated island nation with impenetrable Ur-Quan slave shields blocking all trade in and out, we would be able to sustain our own food, energy, housing, manufacturing, microchips, etc and Americans would be able to afford all these products on an unskilled worker's salary while raising a family. Something you cannot do in modern America with all the benefits of a system that believes """"free trade is a positive sum game""""
Whether we're taking in the world's indigent population who take our jobs and send half their wages back overseas to benefit a foreign family, or we're outsourcing our manufacturing and energy production, or completely neglecting tech and auto sectors- we're doing it to the expense of Americans, not to our benefit. Protectionism isn't the answer, its the basic requirement. Its like we're immolating ourselves in the hottest flames of a burning building and the neoliberal economists are explaining to us why fire extinguishers don't work and sprinklers are heresy. Trump being right isn't enough, he might be too late.


"Neoliberal" is a cute euphemism for Trotskyist communist. These people are driven by an ideology of globalization & homogenenization of all the worlds peoples. Their opposition to common sense protectionist policy is rooted in this deeply held conviction/belief.
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Sep 15 2024 12:37pm
Quote (WiziLiCe @ 15 Sep 2024 06:34)
What happens when the goods you bought are now worth 20-30% in order to account for tariffs? I'd argue it hurts the American consumers who enjoyed those goods.


Do you care more about a foreign product being marketed here; or do u care more about the potential quality of life and balanced economy that can be achieved through that potential short term sacrifice?
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Sep 15 2024 02:48pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Sep 15 2024 03:37pm)
Do you care more about a foreign product being marketed here; or do u care more about the potential quality of life and balanced economy that can be achieved through that potential short term sacrifice?


“Short term” needs to be quantified
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Sep 15 2024 02:48pm
News reports coming out that gunshots happened while Trump was out golfing; believed to be intended for him. Trump safe and secure, one person currently detained and weapon found.
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