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some nice charts





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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 3 2019 02:34pm)
there surely is some level of hypocrisy and perhaps also racism involved, but the comparison between texas and puerto rico is not aaaas straightforward as it seems either. a lot of the infrastructure in puerto rico was mismanaged and in a really pitiful state, and when the hurricane hit the already weakened infrastructure, it compounded the damage. the puerto ricans are not responsible for being hit by a hurricance, but they bear at least some responsibility for the extent of the damages that the hurricane caused them.

maybe a flawed comparison, but if you poll people if they support their healthcare insurance covering the surgery and rehab costs of a car crash victim, it will also make a difference if you tell them that the guy was hit by a wrong-way driver, or if you tell them that he himself was driving 150mph and lost control of his car. support for helping the first guy would surely poll higher than support for the second guy.


if you're going to point at mismanagement in puerto rico as a reason to rationalize denying them relief funding would you make the same assessment of houston where the flooding was made significantly worse as a result of failure to implement and follow proper zoning laws?
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Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 3 2019 02:18pm)
depends on which circles you ask, we have conservatives here in pard who don't consider puerto ricans to be american so i wouldn't be too optimistic about polling among a strictly conservative demographic
as for insurance, we're talking about federal flood insurance programs https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2019/01/09/congress-again-defers-on-reforming-flood-insurance-program
your tax dollars are paying for someone else to have insurance in regions that are prone to flooding
the role of private insurance is not part of a discussion on entitlements


Disaster relief isn't a very good discussion topic in regards to entitlements.
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if you're going to point at mismanagement in puerto rico as a reason to rationalize denying them relief funding would you make the same assessment of houston where the flooding was made significantly worse as a result of failure to implement and follow proper zoning laws?


houston is a dump anyway. and yes, the mismanagement of zoning in Houston should have consequences, I would only appropriate their relief funds on the condition that it gets fixed, just as I would add the condition to the Puerto Rico relief fund that they have to get their shit together.

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so, uh... is that second pic supposed to tell us that deterrence works when it comes to border security?
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That's because there are less attempts...

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Disaster relief isn't a very good discussion topic in regards to entitlements.

if you don't like disaster relief there is also the topic of welfare for farmers hit by trumps trade war
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trumps-12b-agriculture-relief-package-is-farm-welfare-kennedy
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 3 Feb 2019 21:45)
so, uh... is that second pic supposed to tell us that deterrence works when it comes to border security?


Bother are supposed to show that there's not much difference.


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