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Mar 29 2020 10:09pm
Quote (thundercock @ 30 Mar 2020 00:41)
I understand that they are difficult to build and that's obviously built into your supply model. I'm not trivializing the complexity, but I am saying that acting swiftly and decisively will save lives. Part of the issue will be resource allocation and rationing. New York won't be able to hang onto the ventilators forever because the Federal government has supremacy.

Given that a huge amount of COVID cases are in NY, it makes sense that they should get priority since it's an issue NOW. Keep in mind, we don't need to completely capitulate to NY. To me, it makes sense to give them priority for the time being. Granted, maybe the models say that NY is a lost cause. If so, then the President needs to say it. He'll be criticized and all that but he needs to deal with it because it's his job to lead. However, that doesn't appear to be the case since Trump's team agrees with Cuomo in terms of need.



That's a completely unrealistic expectation. Say in 2 weeks there are new outbreaks in other metros, and there are far too few ventilators to cover the entire country. Do you seriously think that the federal government can then step in and say:

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"Dear NY, you currently got 25k vents, but according to our rationing, you're only entitled to 15k. So please unplug 10k patients of yours who are currently being kept alive by them and send the vents back asap. If you need extra crematory capacity to deal with these 10k extra deaths, the army can assist with the transport of the corpses."


Every metro will HODL to its ventilators, no matter how unfair this might be to those who come late to the party - and it will be politically unfeasible to demand them back as part of a national rationing scheme.

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 29 2020 11:57pm)
Not sure how you do not realise that the USA is not intact right now.
Do you know how much money two trillion dollars is?


Well, maybe you think Australia has the nads to attack the US, hmmm?



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Trump says keeping US Covid-19 deaths to 100,000 would be a ‘very good job’

good job.


I'm guessing more like 10k to 15k deaths. 20k at the outside.

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Well, maybe you think Australia has the nads to attack the US, hmmm?





I'm guessing more like 10k to 15k deaths. 20k at the outside.


No need to attack anything, just stand back and watch.
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Mar 29 2020 10:22pm
Quote (Ghot @ 30 Mar 2020 06:10)
I'm guessing more like 10k to 15k deaths. 20k at the outside.


in your state ?
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in your state ?



In the country. Total deaths so far in the US is 2,484. Total deaths in the whole world is only 34K so far.

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Quote (Ghot @ Mar 29 2020 11:49pm)
In the country. Total deaths so far in the US is 2,484. Total deaths in the whole world is only 34K so far.


The only large country that's peaked so far is China, and they went full blown authoritarian to stop the spread and might have not stopped it since reporting is suspect.

The U.S. is gonna have a rough time.
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Mar 29 2020 11:14pm
Quote (Ghot @ 30 Mar 2020 06:49)
In the country. Total deaths so far in the US is 2,484. Total deaths in the whole world is only 34K so far.


Estimate is more than 100k, from experts...
Do you realise it exponentially increasing right now?
How many total cases 1 week ago?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 30 2020 01:14am)
Estimate is more than 100k, from experts...
Do you realise it exponentially increasing right now?
How many total cases 1 week ago?



Well since Jan 2020, we're only up to 34K deaths in the entire world.
I'll stick with my 20K estimation for the US.
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Quote (Ghot @ Mar 30 2020 04:23pm)
Well since Jan 2020, we're only up to 34K deaths in the entire world.
I'll stick with my 20K estimation for the US.


In january it was pretty much in one district in china..
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well our leaders failed us. From our point of view it looks like they did their best but they wanted to protect our economy. They didn't think it was that bad but while taking this huge gamble. OUr economy went down anyways like they predicted and nothing was done in december-november to protect our nation against this virus. Closing borders is not "doing something" when you're a god damn leader of the USA. This is a virus. They knew the coronavirus was in the USA in mid december but we didn't test.
We refused and we gambled and now the USA will have to pay for it. We will be one of the worst countries to deal with this virus.
It gets worse because our lockdowns are like high school detention. It's nothing more then a joke and we have people running around partying and college students just spreading it everywhere. OUr nation failed us and even right now we're not testing every sick person that comes into the hospital. OUr nation is still slacking behind. I'd be surprised if we keep our numbers lower then a million.
We ARE fucked. Not because of the virus itself but because of our leaders.

That's the sad truth. We'll look back in a few years and we'll be pissed about it but no one really cares. They just trust trump and he showed us that he is not capable of dealing with this or even learning from past disasters. I have no idea what's going on but at this point you'd have to purposely do this to be the worst nation on this planet. OUr nation is one of the worst nations on the planet when it comes to dealing with covid-19. Europe is doing bad but at least they learn and fix their mistakes by the day. We're not. We're just fixing as it goes and we only fix we things get worse. We don't prevent.

If you werent scared before today. You better be. They are STILL not testing sick people going into the hospital. Shit i feel like this is a dream where our leaders are just kids lol
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