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Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 3 2019 12:49am)
American conservatism is the top square, dum dum.


How about IDC lol. Just pointed out that thoses schemes are made for dumbys b) But we already know you guys never opens any books b)
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 3 2019 12:52am)


Uhhh thats not a contradiction

There shouldnt be billionaires, so lets have them find our tax plan thereby lowering their wealth.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 3 2019 01:54am)
Uhhh thats not a contradiction

There shouldnt be billionaires, so lets have them find our tax plan thereby lowering their wealth.


You cant tax the billionaires if there aren't any. They rely on there being the ultra wealthy to hypothetically fund their pipe dreams. Without the rich the facade that the rich will be forced to pay for everything comes crashing down. So does a bit of basic math, but they arent willing to do that.

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Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 3 2019 01:08am)
You cant tax the billionaires if there aren't any. They rely on there being the ultra wealthy to hypothetically fund their pipe dreams. Without the rich the facade that the rich will be forced to pay for everything comes crashing down. So does a bit of basic math, but they arent willing to do that.


Whether you think it will work or not is another question.

The meme doesn't work because the two buttons aren't contradictory. You can believe there SHOULDN'T be billionaires and still acknowledge them and use them towards an end.

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Feb 3 2019 01:55am
I love the people that assume just because its harder on billionaires they will all just pack up and leave and that the void will not be filled regardless..
How does a system designed to filter everything to a few select individuals garner so much respect from people?
It makes zero sense to me, like the richest woman in the world gina rhinehart has 30 billion odd dollars, and all she did to get it was pay people to dig up australian resources and sell them..
Could we have not dug that shit up and sold it ourselves?
Pretty sure we easily could have.

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Quote (ChrisKz @ Feb 2 2019 03:58pm)
That is true. Murder has happened throughout history, and almost all older societies met murder with reciprocation. I don't think it will reduce murder, but I do think that it will reduce violence within crime. People not willing to chance their lives at petty crime, per example holding a gun up to somebody while mugging them, is a thought.

I feel that in a more advanced society, which has a more widespread chance at changing past data with more relevant data in a more cultured population, should make the attempt.


Some cases, possibly. But. You know in a lot of cases, I actually dont think it will.

One reason. I think a large portion are crimes of passion with domestics, murders, assaults, etc. They're done while a person is angry, they aren't thinking rationally or just have an inability to do so while thinking things through. I think for some people, in those moments, they just don't think about consequences, they just act.

A robbery is more premeditated, so I guess that'd possibly be different. However, it's like, certain crimes already have some pretty lengthy sentences, as least to me. People still break them. People break their probation rules, disregard alcohol monitoring devices, knowing they're going to face prison time. Felons still possess and go around with guns, even if possessing one is a mandatory prison sentence (I don't remember the time, but i thought it was pretty lengthy).

Overall, it's tough. Reforming the criminal justice system is difficult. A lot of people complain about it, but the only solution people usually say are in regards to drug laws. Which we already have alternative courts, drug courts, and programs to help try to keep those individuals out of prison.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 3 2019 08:55am)
I love the people that assume just because its harder on billionaires they will all just pack up and leave and that the void will not be filled regardless..
How does a system designed to filter everything to a few select individuals garner so much respect from people?
It makes zero sense to me, like the richest woman in the world gina rhinehart has 30 billion odd dollars, and all she did to get it was pay people to dig up australian resources and sell them..
Could we have not dug that shit up and sold it ourselves?
Pretty sure we easily could have.


bro you cant argue with dumby fatties about it, remember its the superior intellect country where you have the most large number of billionaires living near some extreme poverty in the same time.
That penomene has been aggravated through last years, making 50% of the poorest people getting only 12% of the richness made in their great country of democracy and freedom :rofl: fucking fatties lmao

And thoses fatties will fight everyday about how it would be bad to set a universal health care system. disgusting.

This post was edited by Melatonina on Feb 3 2019 03:27am
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 3 2019 01:54am)
Uhhh thats not a contradiction

There shouldnt be billionaires, so lets have them find our tax plan thereby lowering their wealth.


Its not inconsistent. You would require billionaires in order to pay for the massive spending Democrats have planned. Its just shoddy planning from start to finish.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 3 2019 02:55am)
I love the people that assume just because its harder on billionaires they will all just pack up and leave and that the void will not be filled regardless..
How does a system designed to filter everything to a few select individuals garner so much respect from people?
It makes zero sense to me, like the richest woman in the world gina rhinehart has 30 billion odd dollars, and all she did to get it was pay people to dig up australian resources and sell them..
Could we have not dug that shit up and sold it ourselves?
Pretty sure we easily could have.


That's literally what happened to france. And that's probably the worst anecdote I've ever heard.

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