Cultists are seriously insisting media is mean and unfair to trump

I'm going to have to agree with goom when it comes to Russian intelligence agencies old and new. They never were sophisticated in their methods. The CIA has uncovered plots in the cold war and beyond and most of the time they thought they were being baited because surely no one would be that dumb. There's examples of them stumbling upon records of hundreds of spies and their duties in the most baffling ways. This has happened over and over and most probably continues to be the case.

You need a certain amount of practice in doing things a certain way in order to execute it well.


The real issue is that Russian agencies are filled with russian men. Even covert ops guys are alcoholic in need of permanent vodka consumption.

This post was edited by Helloween7 on Jan 14 2019 02:09pm

my position all along has been that Trump was never and would never have been personally involved. he's far too big of a liability. and that Putin and Trump had perfectly aligned goals in 2016, both wanted HRC to lose. So the need for contact isn't there.

my post was from the hypothetical perspective that Trump personally is involved, to which i contend that no paper trail would exist. simpletons insist on framing the conversation around collusion, so i might as well answer from the same perspective. not that i think it's bound in reality.

some people seems to ignore what is the kompromat

admit it sauci, you're waiting for the alleged piss hooker video to come out so you get new fap material.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 14 2019 02:52pm

Helical will be 3 faps in before anyone else even knows it has been released

It's not just that they both wanted HRC to lose, it's also that Putin wants to weaken the United States, he wants to increase tensions and polarization among the American people. Trump winning was the perfect way of achieving that, since he was the most unpolished and most anti-establishment candidate in at least a century. It was absolutely predictable that the establishment and their cronies in the media would start waging war against Trump and denounce his supporters, and it was also predictable that this would bind together his base even more, deepening the preexisting divisions and adding fuel to the fire of the culture wars.

Had Clinton won, Trump's base would have been salty as fuck, but eventually, they would have given up hope and metaphorically went home. The liberal half of the country as well as a majority of the news outlets and pundits would have been happy, and even the Republican establishment could have lived with it very well, considering the prospect of sweeping gains in the 2018 midterms and an almost-guaranteed path to the WH in 2020. And secretly, Clinton's overall agenda is probably better aligned with that of GOP donors like the Kochs or the military-industrial complex than Trump with his anti free trade and anti interventionism instincts.

Simply put, Trump has always been the candidate of disruptive change, and it's in the nature of disruptive change that it weakens a country while it takes place. (Of course with the potential of correcting course for long-term benefit.)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 14 2019 03:07pm

all true, i was just stating it as plainly as i could. Putin and Trump have no reason to contact each other, they both want the same thing more or less out of the 2016 election.

so that piss and shit associated with sex is the first thing that came on your head ? Typical German ?