Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 14 2019 01:37pm)
Kremlin conspiracies have a way of staying in the dark. If Putin is as heavily involved as some think there's zero chance you'll "find" proof. you might be given proof, but you won't find it.
the fucking guy is ex-KGB and has only sharpened his tools since then.
if trump was told something, emailed something, messaged something, if there was a meeting, etc. we won't find it.%
Are we back to endowing our enemies with mythical powers to play up our fears and paranoia?
When you believe in a Missile Gap, its easy to justify escalation and armament and brinksmanship- even if the folks at the top know the pretense is bullshit. And funny how often those fears become weaponized for partisan political purposes. When democrats believe in a Spy Gap, they can rationalize conducting their own massive fake russian influence campaign to poison a senate election with fake facebook pages, propping up 3rd parties and impersonating Russian bots. Because they think the monsters are due on maple street and need to act
first.
The russian actors from 2016 used a pretty primitive method to spearphish a password, paid for servers with bitcoins and put up a blog to release emails and spent some bucks of facebook advertising. I could probably have accomplished all that from my basement with my cursory hacking knowledge. And US agents tracked down and exposed the whole thing. It didn't stay secret. And it had Putin's mark from the moment the emails were out because it so neatly fit the tit-for-tat retaliation against Hillary for 2011. And when Russia agents assassinated Litvinenko and tried to get Skripal, their fingerprints were all over it and they had a rather literal trail to follow. It was clumsy and traced right back to them. Sophisticated tools perhaps, but primitive implementations. Russian intelligence had a long history of being crude but effective, of using a rubber hose rather than a lockpick. The KGB method was often one of brutal conspicuous action to send a message, not finely wrought stealth actions to make sure they never left a trail. Jabbing someone in the back with a ricin pellet fired from an umbrella is certainly sophisticated but also very visible and conspicuous. And as soon as double agents got suspected it didn't take long to expose them. Just slap someone to follow them to the hollow rock they use as a dead drop. And of course, the old joke always ended with the line about the KGB agents returning from the woods with a bruised bear that says "I am a rabbit. My mother and father were rabbits". Not exactly renowned for finesse.
when the requirement to believe in conspiracies becomes grander and grander claims of xanatos gambits and prescience and ability to masterfully hush up all trails to an action despite it being such a publicly scrutinized affair- it falls victim to occams razor. Its like the nonsense about Michael Cohen being in Prague, when we have mountains of evidence that he wasn't, and believing that he was means he's either a timetraveling/teleporting wizard or somehow traveled transatlantic in the post-9/11 security world in total secrecy and somehow left such an elaborate fake trail and had the foresight to know this was all necessary- even though he could have just used any encrypted messing tool and never gone in person.