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Jan 14 2019 07:10am
Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 18 2015 07:26am)
I'm seriously so sick of hearing about Trump already; he's a fringe candidate who stands no chance at getting the nomination. He's this year's Ron Paul (gets tons of attention on the internet but loses by a landslide).


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Jan 14 2019 07:11am
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MSM isn't left it's establishment Democrat biased for profit. They pushed for conservative wars for profit. They attack trump for profit. They manufacture outrage for profit. They are not left. They will attack actual leftists to benefit establishment Democrats that are often conservatives with a (D). I know it benefits you conservatives to always spread this mislabeling but it's not accurate no matter how many time you repeat it


Well, the "actual left" is such a weak force in American politics that "leftist" is often used interchangeably with "liberal" to denote the "Democratic Party"-flavor of leftism, which on an objective scale is center-left to center-right on economic issues, but drifting to the left very hard on cultural issues in recent years.
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Jan 14 2019 07:14am
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Well, the "actual left" is such a weak force in American politics that "leftist" is often used interchangeably with "liberal" to denote the "Democratic Party"-flavor of leftism, which on an objective scale is center-left to center-right on economic issues, but drifting to the left very hard on cultural issues in recent years.


It's used so that conservative heavy can battle conservative lite while blaming the left. It's a long effective strategy

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Jan 14 2019 07:17am
principled cuck Barnie can win as long as fat activists wont chase him off his own rally podium again
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Jan 14 2019 07:21am
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It's used so that conservative heavy can battle conservative lite while blaming the left. It's a long effective strategy


Well, if we divide political ideologies into "left" and "right" such that both the democrats and the republicans fall into the "right"-bin, as you suggest, then one has to clearly state that the "left" in your sense is completely atrophied in the United States.

What do you think are the reasons for that? If the "trueâ„¢ left" was a superior ideology or concept, then why didnt it gain ANY traction for such a long period of time?
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Jan 14 2019 07:31am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 14 2019 06:21am)
Well, if we divide political ideologies into "left" and "right" such that both the democrats and the republicans fall into the "right"-bin, as you suggest, then one has to clearly state that the "left" in your sense is completely atrophied in the United States.

What do you think are the reasons for that? If the "trueâ„¢ left" was a superior ideology or concept, then why didnt it gain ANY traction for such a long period of time?


Because voter wise this has long been a right of center country with lots of Ghots mixed in. I haven't claimed anything about the left being a superior or popular ideology I'm saying conservatives mislabel establishment Democrat leaning profiteers as leftists and very often conservatives refer to them as far left as a political tactic and it's not true

Your conservative media and your political enemy's media both pushed for the same wars. They are buddy buddy with the same war mongers. Being anti trump for views doesn't change that. Being sjw outraged for 15 minutes at a time for views doesn't change that.
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Jan 14 2019 07:39am
fake news msm lying about their true views by barking out far-left rhetoric for views - bad

people calling out their lies also bad

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Jan 14 2019 09:14am
I'd like to point out that this is probably bottom 5 trump tweets alongside when he retweeted the britain first videos;
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084644517238714369
its like he's trying to be edgy to pull off some meme but just off unnecessarily racist and doesn't make a joke out of it. Which is particularly damning because Elizabeth Warren was really batting up the perfect pitch with that awful clip of hers, and trump at least somewhat salvaged it in the next tweet. It would be like mocking Shaun King by saying "If only he were on a plantation with fried chicken and a watermelon!". Like damn son, that's the 'taking it too far and not being funny enough' zone. You either leapfrog that entirely and go over the top, or you steer clear.

I remember saying at the time when he tweeted those videos (good luck finding a jsp post from a year ago, googlefu turns up nothing) that the media is really awful at skewering Trump whenever he does something objectionable because of the boy crying wolf effect. They get so obsessed with shrieking hysterically when he feeds koi fish or makes a typo that it just gets lost in the chaos whenever he does something actually bad. This isn't even making any blip on the news outside of the liberal circlejerks, not even a mention on cnn.com's front page anymore, and the clickbait media has already moved onto "Trump deletes tweet after goofing up his destination for a convention today". Oh dear, he accidentally said 'Nashville" instead of "New Orleans".
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Jan 14 2019 11:01am
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I'd like to point out that this is probably bottom 5 trump tweets alongside when he retweeted the britain first videos;
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084644517238714369
its like he's trying to be edgy to pull off some meme but just off unnecessarily racist and doesn't make a joke out of it. Which is particularly damning because Elizabeth Warren was really batting up the perfect pitch with that awful clip of hers, and trump at least somewhat salvaged it in the next tweet. It would be like mocking Shaun King by saying "If only he were on a plantation with fried chicken and a watermelon!". Like damn son, that's the 'taking it too far and not being funny enough' zone. You either leapfrog that entirely and go over the top, or you steer clear.

I remember saying at the time when he tweeted those videos (good luck finding a jsp post from a year ago, googlefu turns up nothing) that the media is really awful at skewering Trump whenever he does something objectionable because of the boy crying wolf effect. They get so obsessed with shrieking hysterically when he feeds koi fish or makes a typo that it just gets lost in the chaos whenever he does something actually bad. This isn't even making any blip on the news outside of the liberal circlejerks, not even a mention on cnn.com's front page anymore, and the clickbait media has already moved onto "Trump deletes tweet after goofing up his destination for a convention today". Oh dear, he accidentally said 'Nashville" instead of "New Orleans".


Most of the criticism isn't over silly things like typos or the koi pond though... it's him talking shit about Mika's face lift, or calling the media the enemy of the people, or criticizing his own senior advisers, or denigrating the FBI for the 500th time. All we have to do is play the Obama/George Bush test... had Obama said or tweeted what Trump did, would the media cover it? The answer is almost always yes.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 14 2019 08:14am)
I'd like to point out that this is probably bottom 5 trump tweets alongside when he retweeted the britain first videos;
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084644517238714369
its like he's trying to be edgy to pull off some meme but just off unnecessarily racist and doesn't make a joke out of it. Which is particularly damning because Elizabeth Warren was really batting up the perfect pitch with that awful clip of hers, and trump at least somewhat salvaged it in the next tweet. It would be like mocking Shaun King by saying "If only he were on a plantation with fried chicken and a watermelon!". Like damn son, that's the 'taking it too far and not being funny enough' zone. You either leapfrog that entirely and go over the top, or you steer clear.

I remember saying at the time when he tweeted those videos (good luck finding a jsp post from a year ago, googlefu turns up nothing) that the media is really awful at skewering Trump whenever he does something objectionable because of the boy crying wolf effect. They get so obsessed with shrieking hysterically when he feeds koi fish or makes a typo that it just gets lost in the chaos whenever he does something actually bad. This isn't even making any blip on the news outside of the liberal circlejerks, not even a mention on cnn.com's front page anymore, and the clickbait media has already moved onto "Trump deletes tweet after goofing up his destination for a convention today". Oh dear, he accidentally said 'Nashville" instead of "New Orleans".


Why be an adult and take the win he already had when he can mock one of our recent worst massacres and one that still weighs heavy on us till this day?

Our women and children massacred in the snow by the government. Of course he couldn't just take the win and of course he couldn't stop with Pocahontas

but lucky for him there aren't enough of us left so in 15 minutes it will be on to the next shitty comment out of that scum bag's mouth

and Warren claimed to be Cherokee so as usual shitty and dumb

This post was edited by Beowulf on Jan 14 2019 11:19am
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