I dont know man... can you imagine the outrage of all the leavers when Parliament in the end goes "welp, didnt pan out as intended, guess we'll just stay in the EU now"?





she's only allowed to still be PM because no one else is stupid enough to want this job at this time.

for the sake of the country there has to be someone, who can step forward now

and yes, there will be an outrage in the scenario you mention, however as we already discussed mays "deal" is worse than being a member by all objective standards
i think most leavers will agree there

All the nerds wanting a Brexit have stepped back in the past, not daring to take the job, cowardly shouting no from the sidelines.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Jan 15 2019 03:52pm

The majority in parliament would vote for a People's vote if there was a leader courageous enough to support and bring it forward. It's either a people's vote or no deal, and most MP's do not want a no deal scenario for obvious reasons.

The key point is this - there is no possible deal which can actually pass through parliament.

This post was edited by dro94 on Jan 15 2019 04:21pm

I/e ah nvm misread

This post was edited by Knoppie on Jan 15 2019 04:30pm

dogface ugly globalist trash french presidemt Macaron

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So #bremain is still on my friend?

the resounding NO in parliament is obviously bad news for the brits AND the rest of the EU.

the core question remains the same though: what did they really expect, or rather, what are they still pretending for? i'm sure the majority of them is smart enough to realise that, no matter what you think of may, there was not much more she could have achieved. that was clear from even before the referendum - the only problem is that none of the leavers was honest enough to tell the brits that. they were lead to believe they could maintain all the benefits while simultaneously getting rid of the downsides AND saving billions while doing so. i mean, how gullible and uninformed can you be to fall for that?

it's funny to see the same people i've been debating for months and years, who insisted that the EU would eventually budge and allow the UK a favourable deal, finally realise it's not going to happen. and again, that's not a result of shrewd negotiating or smart politics by team brussels, it's just the only logical consequence if you assume the EU is not interested in just abolishing itself. as costly and painful as it will be (and we all will suffer considerably from it), it's still the smaller price to pay compared to a deal that would inevitably have lead to more nations taking the selfish route and leaving the union, looking for a better deal...

In the long term it's good for the EU if we can get a hard brexit.

the final chapter hasnt been written yet. at the end of the day, the EU is puppet of large, multinational corporations, and if those fear that they really might take huge losses in case of a no deal brexit, they will instruct their stooges in Brussels to sacrifice some idealistic/ideological ballast of the "EU project" (e.g. insisting on the idea of an 'ever closer union') in order to save their economic interests.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 16 2019 04:57am