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Jan 2 2019 04:52pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 2 Jan 2019 17:49)
don8



IKR but apparently only for tax purposes.
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I mean a charity with a 500k turnover is nothing, but id be willing to bet it is only really used as a tax sponge anyway, they set up a charity and spend 9X% on admin and expansion costs, con anyone they can into donating and its all gravy.
Anything they put into the charity is like a slush fund they are not paying tax on, the tiny bit they give out is better than paying tax on that money.
These guys are lawyers, they know this.
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The Wall is a stupid idea and nonstarter now that Trump has lost the House :)

Happy New Year! <3

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 2 2019 09:12pm
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The Wall is a stupid idea and nonstarter now that Trump has lost the House :)

Happy New Year! <3


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/01/02/democrats-mexico-broder-wall-223648
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Lol, I just stumbled over this gem:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/

Quote (Mick Mulvaney)
"They voted for (a border wall) in 2006. Then-Senator Obama voted for it. Sen. Schumer voted for it. Sen. Clinton voted for it."


What does fact-check have to say to it?

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Fact-check: Did top Democrats vote for a border wall in 2006?
[...]

Mulvaney said that Obama, Schumer and Clinton voted for a border wall in 2006.

They did vote for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence along about 700 miles of the border
between the United States and Mexico.

Still, the fence they voted for is not as substantial as the wall Trump is proposing. Trump himself called the 2006 fence a "nothing wall."

Mulvaney’s statement is partially accurate, but ignores important context. We rate it Half True.


lolwut? They just acknowledged that Mulvaney's statement is entirely correct. It is 100% true. Rating it as just "half true" is clearly fake news and further proof for politifact's significant leftward bias.



That the 2006 bill and the border wall plans from 2018 cannot be compared one-to-one might be true, but this does not affect the correctness of Mulvaney's statement in the slightest, and politifact's job here was to judge this statement, not to use a fact-checking article to spread their preferred political spin.

This is not what neutral journalism or neutral fact-checking looks like. The correct verdict would clearly have been "The statement itself is true, but it implied a political context which can be considered misleading."

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 3 2019 01:35am
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ol' politidogshit with the fakenews again

wInNeR of ThE pUlItZeR pRizE
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 3 2019 06:30pm)
Lol, I just stumbled over this gem:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/



What does fact-check have to say to it?



lolwut? They just acknowledged that Mulvaney's statement is entirely correct. It is 100% true. Rating it as just "half true" is clearly fake news and further proof for politifact's significant leftward bias.



That the 2006 bill and the border wall plans from 2018 cannot be compared one-to-one might be true, but this does not affect the correctness of Mulvaney's statement in the slightest, and politifact's job here was to judge this statement, not to use a fact-checking article to spread their preferred political spin.

This is not what neutral journalism or neutral fact-checking looks like. The correct verdict would clearly have been "The statement itself is true, but it implied a political context which can be considered misleading."


Are a fence and a wall the same thing?
No.
End of debate.
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Jan 3 2019 02:23am
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Are a fence and a wall the same thing?
No.
End of debate.




"The Secure Fence Act of 2006 authorizes the construction of 700 additional miles (1,100 km) of the double chain link and barbed wire fences with light and infrared camera poles."

As good as a wall if you ask me. Also note how not even the dorks from politifact use this nitpicking, else they would rate Mulvaney's statement as mostly false.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 3 2019 03:23am)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/US-Mexico_border_fence.jpg/800px-US-Mexico_border_fence.jpg

"The Secure Fence Act of 2006 authorizes the construction of 700 additional miles (1,100 km) of the double chain link and barbed wire fences with light and infrared camera poles."

As good as a wall if you ask me. Also note how not even the dorks from politifact use this nitpicking, else they would rate Mulvaney's statement as mostly false.


the virgin fence and the chad great wall of freedom, noty
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