Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 24 2019 04:01pm)

They tried to defuse the situation and probably prevented it from getting violent, there is a 2 hour video of it and i am an hour in, not much has happened besides a bunch of assholes yelling at eachother so far.

Quote (GLYC123 @ Jan 25 2019 08:02am)

Defuse the situation by getting in front of the kids versus the aggressors? Makes zero sense.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 24 2019 03:01pm)

I wasnt closely following American politics in 2008, so maybe my idea of how that campaign went is wrong, I'll admit that.

Btw, you might be getting me wrong anyway: I also think that Trump would have to take a black candidate seriously. It's just... as things are standing right now, I believe that reelection will be difficult for Trump against any remotely competent opponent. He has to fear everyone at this point. But if he's running against a black candidate and/or a candidate running on the Hillary platform again, then he can just repeat his 2016 playbook, which he already knows well and which has already proven its effectiveness.

So when I said that "Harris might be one of the easiest candidates for Trump to beat", it meant that in relative terms: "out of all the tough races he could potentially face, Harris might - comparatively - be one of the easiest for him to win".

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 24 2019 11:01pm)

They tried to defuse the situation and probably prevented it from getting violent, there is a 2 hour video of it and i am an hour in, not much has happened besides a bunch of assholes yelling at eachother so far.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 24 2019 10:55pm)

They are not devils, they are assholes, what part of travelling from kentucky to washington to protest a womans right to her own body screams nice kids to you?
Their actions were dickish from the start and never improved, all the whataboutism's in the world do not make these kids look any better in my eyes.
The black israelites were also assholes.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 24 2019 05:04pm)

They were between both groups, the kids were the assholes yelling build the wall, native americans do not believe in walls, so it makes sense.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 24 2019 02:55pm)

They are not devils, they are assholes, what part of travelling from kentucky to washington to protest a womans right to her own body screams nice kids to you?
Their actions were dickish from the start and never improved, all the whataboutism's in the world do not make these kids look any better in my eyes.
The black israelites were also assholes.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 25 2019 08:14am)

stop being so literal man. i was making a play on words.

i never said they were nice. nice/mean and fault/innocent aren't mutually exclusive.

Look at George Zimmerman, or Steven Avery.

Quote (joncomgree @ Jan 25 2019 08:13am)

the kids werent yelling build the wall tho

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 24 2019 03:17pm)

Then we agree.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 25 2019 08:18am)

i mean kinda. im not going to say anyone at a march for life rally is a bad person, im pro choice but anti abortion afterall.

nor am i gonna say anyone with a MAGA hat is a shitbag, because i love my grandpa.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 24 2019 03:20pm)

https://twitter.com/roflinds/status/1087486166939680768
Its pretty clear they were being provocative asshats.
I know you will bring up her racist tweets from 6 years ago as if they are relevant, but they are not.
If these kids were acting like this then i can see why it all lead to what it did.

Seeing as this happened prior to any of the other stuff, the narrative that these poor kids were just sitting quietly minding their own business before the evil black man came and attacked them is nonsense.