Doesn’t make sense to make the federal workers pay for it, tbh.

Wait wtf - I looked up the bill and it hasn’t even been presented to the house yet.
Wtf is this bullshit?
“H.R. 648 — 116th Congress: Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019.” www.GovTrack.us. 2019. January 23, 2019 <https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr648>

This post was edited by IchBinDaddy on Jan 23 2019 11:08pm

Democratic leaders decided to call up a bill Wednesday to fund the entire government. But just before the final vote, Republicans made a motion to erase that bill and instead vote on a measure to ensure federal workers are paid.

The GOP motion failed 200-215, and these sorts of last-minute motions fail every time.

I want to see the actual bill.

This post was edited by IchBinDaddy on Jan 23 2019 11:20pm

I kind of think it will, at least if you're a person on the right or of moderate political background. Dems haven't even brought up granting any money for a physical wall. Yet Repubs have reduced their asking price, offered DACA extensions. So, where are the Dems trying to compromise?

The only offers they've made specifically stated no funding be allowed towards wall construction. We already have parts of walls up from the past, and walls that were created under Obama.

They're literally only doing this to try to stop Trump from completing a campaign promise. So, if you take that perspective, they are at fault.

Overall, I question how much this matters for 2020. I still think Dems will vote Dems. Repubs will vote Repubs.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 24 2019 12:16am

your idea of compromise is trump getting precisely what he wants? i mean it's fine to think that but i sure hope you have the self awareness to realize you aren't a moderate

His initial want was 25 billion for the wall. Additionally, he offered DACA extensions.

So no, he isn't getting precisely what he wants lol.

"The Democrat’s Dilemma
Illegal aliens cause economic harm to Americans because they consume far more in government services than they contribute in taxes. We make: they take."

"If a border wall prevented 160,000 to 200,000 illegal crossings (excluding descendants) in the next 10 years, it would be enough to pay for the estimated $12 to $15 billion costs of the wall"

"The Department of Homeland Security said that, in total, 521,090 individuals were either apprehended or deemed ”inadmissible” after arriving at a port of entry on the border during the 2018 fiscal year. In 2017, 415,517 people were caught crossing illegally or turned away, as were 553,378 in 2016."


Overall, illegals do enter from overstaying Visas, but having a secure border still stops some of the illegal immigration.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 24 2019 12:40am

I have always hated the campaign promise mandate thinking as if the tiny minority of people who voted for trump even cared about the wall.

not only did trump kill DACA in the first place, he's also on the record saying that HE wants the dreamers to stay and become citizens - so how the fuck is a temporary extension considered a concession to the dems now?
that's like stealing someone's pizza, announcing publicly you don't want them to be hungry, and then offering them to smell it as a 'compromise'...

This post was edited by fender on Jan 24 2019 02:35am

how do you know?