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Dec 20 2018 04:12pm
conclusions to America v. James Wolfe;

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78718327&f=119

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/ex-senate-intelligence-committee-aide-sentenced-to-two-months-in-leak-probe/2018/12/20/86dffc20-ffd8-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html?noredirect=on

sentenced to 2 months in prison
Prosecutors had requested 2 years. Judge Jackson (notable pick of Obama's, and would have been his presumptive SCOTUS nominee if the democrats had held the senate) ruled narrowly on the penalty for lying to the FBI in isolation, disregarding any extra condemnation over the 'noncriminal' aspects of his conspiracy that he wasn't charged with / that weren't crimes. So even though he violated national security by leaking stories to the media to a NYT presstitute he was banging, he was just sentenced for the part where he lied about it to the FBI, and the rest discarded. And I think that's probably fair. After all, there are other measures of accountability in his personal and professional life. But the civil libertarian in me can't help but compare how the judge ruled in this case to the concept of hate crimes multipliers and the criminalization of protected free speech when it is an aggravating factor when charged with another crime. A judge can just wave her hands and say that the noncriminal-but-harmful-and-inappropriate conduct of one person is to be ignored at sentencing, but for another it can lock the up for years.

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Dec 21 2018 08:32am
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the same people are also the most stringent anti-govt spending people, imo. and have been told by snarky leftists "you guys say u dont like welfare but you wont step in to help out if these people can't eat" and similar on every single issue of govt spending. over and over the left claims its impossible to get a damn thing done without more and more govt. this is a satisfying moment for those right wingers im sure. even if they only ever secure 5-10% of the initial funds needed they'll feel like super heroes.


The amount of money at this point is really irrelevant, IMO. It's not going to be enough to really do anything "wall" related. What's much more impactful and profound is the clear example of a LARGE portion of our country wanting this wall. This is concrete proof, literally people's hard earned money, that this wall is something a large portion of America wants.

This should scare the shit out of the loony left. They spit and spew all day through TV, podcasts, and blogs/articles about how no one wants this, it's racist, it's immortal. blah blah blah.

Here we are, with a fucking go fund me page, with millions of dollars and tons of people donating. There are 100x people who want to the wall but are too lazy to donate, don't think ti'll do any good (me) or just don't know about it.

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The amount of money at this point is really irrelevant, IMO. It's not going to be enough to really do anything "wall" related. What's much more impactful and profound is the clear example of a LARGE portion of our country wanting this wall. This is concrete proof, literally people's hard earned money, that this wall is something a large portion of America wants.

This should scare the shit out of the loony left. They spit and spew all day through TV, podcasts, and blogs/articles about how no one wants this, it's racist, it's immortal. blah blah blah.

Here we are, with a fucking go fund me page, with millions of dollars and tons of people donating. There are 100x people who want to the wall but are too lazy to donate, don't think ti'll do any good (me) or just don't know about it.


its a real fucking quagmire.... Lefties with heals dug in, but Trump let's them off the hook and owns the shutdown, while at the same time telling people mexico is paying for the wall, while at the same time stating the walls already started and incredible, while the lefties continue to say it's not popular (nor is a shutdown). both sides making unpopular decisions for what amounts to a pack of gum for the federal budget.
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Dec 21 2018 09:20am
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its a real fucking quagmire.... Lefties with heals dug in, but Trump let's them off the hook and owns the shutdown, while at the same time telling people mexico is paying for the wall, while at the same time stating the walls already started and incredible, while the lefties continue to say it's not popular (nor is a shutdown). both sides making unpopular decisions for what amounts to a pack of gum for the federal budget.


Sounds like business as usual.
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Dec 21 2018 09:29am
A wall of idiots, who cant pay tax evasion experts, will pay for it

This is the only truth and conclusion, congratulation trump voters/supporters.
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A wall of idiots, who cant pay tax evasion experts, will pay for it

This is the only truth and conclusion, congratulation trump voters/supporters.


Another day! Congrats, Sauceman!

How was last night's looting and rioting?
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Dec 21 2018 09:40am
Quote (djman72 @ Dec 21 2018 09:20am)
Sounds like business as usual.


sometimes i think that, and sometimes i think back to childhood and remember people generally agreeing more. and i think the "let's try and see what happens" approach was more common. look at war on drugs, crime, etc. tossing shit at a wall knowing it might be 2 decades before you even know if it will work. now in the internet age someone "breaks the story" about some minor detail of a massive plan and everyone second guesses. worse yet if u have 100 people you'll get 10 groups of 10 that all have a gripe with something different. i really think the internet broke us, but we'll see in 50 years if it shakes out.
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Another day! Congrats, Sauceman!

How was last night's looting and rioting?


you means at your mother's home ? It wasn't that good, shit everywhere, we quickly left this place.

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you means at your mother's home ? It wasn't that good, shit everywhere, we quickly left this place.


Yeah, she said she took home some smelly frenchman with a tiny peter. She said to stop texting her and take a bath.

BTW, peter is american slang for penis.
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Yeah, she said she took home some smelly frenchman with a tiny peter. She said to stop texting her and take a bath.

BTW, peter is american slang for penis.

lmfao great post my friend!
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